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#56772 - 08/23/06 11:35 PM Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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I just got my Bare-eyed cockatoo this past sunday and was wondering if someone could give me some tips on how to get him out of being so skittish and shy. His name is Conner. He's sweet and loves to cuddle..but you can only hold and cuddle with him after you have to pick him up off the floor from him flying away at first...plus he shys away from being petted...but when he can't go anywhere else because he backed away as far as he can go..he'll let you pet him then..Please help me here!

Stevan

#56773 - 08/24/06 03:54 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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You just got him. It takes time for them to make the mental and emotional switch from where they were to where they are now. Try to image that you were forcibly taken from your home. Now you are somewhere else and everything is unfamiliar. You are not being treated badly but you think where am I, why am I here, where is everything I know? You are being given food but it is unfamiliar too. Everything feels and smells different.

Just give him treats, pine nuts, pellets if he sees these as treats. What ever he enjoys or views as a treat. Nuts usually work well. or sunflower seeds.

Sit beside his cage, read or sing to him. If he comes over to your side of the cage give him a treat. I would not try to hold him just yet. Give him time to adjust. Pressuring him will just frighten him and get you hurt. Their bites hurt like hell. ANd they bleed really well.

So the answer to your question is TIME with out pressure.

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#56774 - 08/24/06 02:27 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Absolute "bang on" explanation and advice smile Welcome to the board Stevan smile

#56775 - 08/24/06 03:49 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Ah..Ok...that sounds good..you are right there Sherrel.. I will try that on for size...he seems to love apple slices and will take those from my hand quick! I leave his cage open when i am in the room with him and he'll come out to the top of his cage.After a while of sitting there, He'll make a kissing sound at me and even say what sounds like " Hello" to me. All I really do in response is say "thank you Conner" to him. I do sit near his cage all day and listen to music..he'll bob up and down and even do a little birdie dance to it. He even seems to like to dance to Maria Carey! LOL... I do thank you for the advice...I will give him some more time like you told me...but i will say this...every now and again..he'll fly down to the floor on purpose without me trying to pick him up and walk over and sit on my foot. Should i give him a treat every time he does that too?

Stevan

#56776 - 08/24/06 04:45 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Absolutely Steven...

You'll want to give him treats for every step he makes towards having a friendship with you.Praise even goes along way with any parrot.Gabby,my CC2,is very skittish at times when it comes to cuddles and skritches.I just hum or sing softly to her and she then relaxes so we can spend time with each other.

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#56777 - 08/24/06 05:12 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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cool Jan...well right now he's sitting in my lap...he flew over to the foot of the bed and I just sat here and told him that was good...and he inched his way closer to me...now he's in my lap playing with my belt buckle...so i steal a pet here and there to let him know i am paying him some attention..He's only been here in my home for 4 days...he's still a little jumpy when i move as I guess he will be for a while. I'm just going to let him come to me for the time being before I start to offer my arm to him..but I'll wait a few weeks before i do that..I hope that with advice from you I'll become Conner's best friend! I've only ever owned a conure...mine died so i got Conner..my bare eyed 2 ..i know their behavior is alot different...so I'll need all the advice i can get...Thanks again Jan..

Stevan

#56778 - 08/24/06 06:01 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hello, I am also a new too owner. I had some unwanted house guest (in-laws) that needed a place to stay. When they left they left their U2 Sam behind. We live in the country and I never paid much attention to him while they were there. Once they left and I realized they abandoned him I brought his cage inside and dived into the internet for help with this newly aquired family member. I am soo thankful I found mytoos.com. I have many animals and love them all and Sam fits right in. They had a lock on his cage but my husband cut it off that first night it stays open when ever anyone is home. I am truely amazed at how much personality Sam has and I am thankful that his poor treatment has not negatively affected him. I have set an appointment with an avian vet from the list on Jerrys site. He needs to list phone numbers, it was quiet hard tracking the vet down that was closest to me. Anyway I look forward to learning from ya'll.

#56779 - 08/24/06 08:23 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Stevan you will be fine.If you have any questions just ask.

What do you feed Conner?Pellets are very important but along with that fresh veggies are too.Try to get the organic veggies as they are much better for birds.I cut up fresh veggies daily and steam them in the microwave for a short time to make them a bit softer for them.I also have the bean and veggie mix that Jerry feeds and it is very easy to make and I just freexe it and take it out every night for them tto eat as well.I freeze it in idividual servings so it is much easier to serve.My birds all love it.I think you can find it in the diet section.I give them some seed for treats,sunflower seeds and millet and that kind of things.They love to eat people foods but you must be careful of salt and onions mostly.And no canned foods either because the preservatives aren't good for them.No caffine and be careful of household cleaners and fragrent thing as well...very harmfull.

Just thought I would add that incase you didn't know.Better to be safe than sorry.Lol.

Good luck.

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#56780 - 08/24/06 08:50 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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I give Conner a mix of vegies and seeds....I use the pellets for treats...I tried it as food at first but he wouldn't eat the pellets...so i started him with a mix of veg&seeds...he goes crazy over that...He eats the pellets as a treat...go figure..he seems to be finiky..I just found out today at lunch from an ex-employee of the petshop i got Conner from that he used not to be skittish and knew no stranger...this ex-employee also told me that a few weeks before he was let go...that Conner began acting that way...Come to find out that Conner was being mistreated and Abused by 4 of the other Employees.. when he talked to the owner about it...he was fired...the other employees still had their Jobs...so appartly his skittishness and shyness came from that...is there a way to get the playful loving and unusually friendlyness back in him...How can I make him feel like I or anyone else in my house will not abuse or mistreat him? I guess you could say i got him at the right time...sorta rescued him...I'd love to see Conner become what he was...Loving and knowing no stranger again.

Stevan

#56781 - 08/24/06 11:24 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hi Stevan - Welcome!

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How can I make him feel like I or anyone else in my house will not abuse or mistreat him?
Time, love and patience. There are no quick answers, but as long as you love him and keep asking questions, you'll do fine. smile

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Conner was being mistreated and Abused by 4 of the other Employees.. when he talked to the owner about it...he was fired...the other employees still had their Jobs
This is why I hate pet stores!!!! mad

#56782 - 08/25/06 02:49 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Stevan and Nubi - where are you from in Texas?
I am a Texan transplanted to Ohio. I was born in Tyler and raised in Longview. My family still lives in Texas.
Nubi - what kind of too do you have?

Stevan - sounds like you are off to a great start. Just remember to not push. Allow him to come to you. He will tell you when he is ready for more interaction. His fun-loving nature will return when his trust has been rebuilt. You said he likes the music. So sing and dance with him. Too's love drama so the sight of you singing at the top of you lungs and dancing the funky chicken will appeal to him. <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> But be sure to get a video of it and put it on the photos page. laugh

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#56783 - 08/25/06 02:59 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hi Stevan and Nubi. Welcome to Mytoos! I've learned so much from all the fabulous people on this board! I am owned by a 7-year-old female U2 and ahev been with her now for 5 years. I am still learning how to navigate the wacky and wonderful world of these highly intelligent creatures. You are off to a great start and I am looking forward to more of your posts. By the way... I live in Texas, just north of Dallas in Plano. Where are you guys from?

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#56784 - 08/26/06 06:12 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Well Miss yummyumm I myself am in Spring Texas. I love it here. Here's an up date on Conner. He's doing Great...Still skittish and shy...but seems to be adjusting to the house...He'll come out of his cage and look around. He'll even get down in the floor or fly onto the bed and explore some. when he is on the bed he runs from me...but when he is on the floor..Conner comes running over to me for me to pick him up.. he'll sit there for a few minutes and cuddle for a little then flies to his cage at the slightest move. I have gotten him a toy to go in his cage that has a bell on it that he seems to like..He'll stand next to it and bump the bell with one wing just to hear it ring..and will do it over and over.. but he has learned that if he rings it 5 times..I'll come and open his cage door. I am also doing as i was told...not pushing him to come to me.. and I am playing music for him and last night i was singing and dancing for him and he just watched and be bopped with it..He is actually starting to even show excitement when i come into the room now..I just hope that that is a sign that he is coming around..I am even trying to teach him how to say some words like good morning hello and i love you...Well i'll make sure to keep you all informed on how he is doing.. and will probly be asking even more questions as they arrive...Right now Conner is just sitting next to me on the Bed picking at my shorts...I'll reach over and pet him from time to time...but only when he bumps my hand with his beak..I'm letting him tell me when he wants to be touched. More on Conner to come as he progresses!!

Stevan

#56785 - 08/26/06 07:52 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Sounds like you two are doing wonderfully. Stick around and ask as many questions as you want! THis is a good group of folks. smile

#56786 - 08/27/06 09:35 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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You need to be carefull he doesn't get cage bound. Some birds that are in their cage to much will not come out...I rescued a Nandy Parrot that would not come out of the cage, if you tried to get him out he would attack. I got a oven mitt and got him out of his cage and got rid of the cage. He lives on a playground now or on me, I have 9 birds in all...I rescue animals all the time, I rescued a TOO about a month ago, he had been abused and had plucked most of his feathers, the last owner ended up with 7 stitches in her nose he was a big biter, But lucky for me when we saw each other it was love at first sight, he comes right out of his cage and plays and talks up a storm with me. But if any one else comes near him he takes a attack stand. I give my animals treats when I am playing with them, when I train them they get lots of love for doing what I want, the reward for doing good is love not food....And on topic I am the other way, I spend as much time with a new animal as I can, I force them to be around me, I hold them as much as possible. This I feel lets them know they are in a warm loveing home, Yes I have been bitten many times, I have a Blue and Gold Macaw that can take a finger if it wants.. but that is the price I pay to give love to my friends. If your TOO come out of the cage and gets on you leave the room with him, don't take it back to the cage, walk around the house tell the bird in soft tones "your ok, its alright etc.." I use oven mitts and I wear a Levi jacket to handle the realy rough ones, they seem not to be able to bite thru these.. Normally in 2-3 hours we are friends, it doesn't take long, they are very smart birds..and they know fear, if you always put it back in the cage when it comes out or every one runs when it tries to fly it will learn that and be a big problem later.

#56787 - 08/29/06 04:40 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hummmm.....to force or not to force??? Ok...well Conner does stay in his cage at times and other times comes out...He seems to like one of my roommates though...So if i do force him out of his cage to be held. you are saying it is ok...I have leather gloves that are thick and Conner seems to come to me if I wear the same hat i wore when I got him. I also have the mohawk hair style and if I stand just the front of it up..He comes a runnin to me...why is that? back to forcing to be held...will forcing him out of his cage really build his trust in me? do I give him a treat for staying with me..or just lots of love? Treat or Love? now I am really confused..but I will try that...but if it gets me Conner hating me...I'll get depressed...I've always wanted a TOO and not one that'll hate me...but one that'll love me..I sing to him and dance for him..I sit on the floor by his cage and read oliver twist to him...now the Biggest question of all....What should I have Conner on or in as a living area? Cage or playground?...Now is when i really need some major feedback!

Stevan

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I have a stand made from PVC on wheels, and can roll them any where I go, You need to cage them if your not going to be in the room with them they are VERY distrutive, so at night mine get caged. Forcing him out of his cage and holding him, cooing make kissie sounds just get him away from his cage and he will bond to you..My day starts at 7am the first thing I do is get the M2 out and pull him around with me. this lets him know he doesn't always have to be on me...I always give my birds love for being with me, I give treats when I have to put them back in the cage, for one it gives them some thing to do while you slip off to some other room and hopes they will nap after, and shows them the cage is not all that bad..lol...good luck... just keep trying and every thing will be ok.. If he is bonding to one of your room mates keep them apart or he will never bond to you and even turn agressive towards you, that happened to the last owner of mine, it bonded with her husband and when she went to get him she got 7 stitches instead.

#56789 - 08/29/06 05:12 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hi Stevan,
You seem like you are really trying very hard to do the right thing and getting so many opinions. I am new to this site and I have only had my C2 for almost 2 years. It takes time for them to trust you I thinks because its like taking a 2 year old from his Mommy/Daddy (previous owner), and now there in a strange place. No matter how much they may think they could like you, they are scared and confused and don't know why all this has happened. I think it takes them a little while to of watching you interact with them, see what you do around the house, watching how nice and safe feeling your are and becoming adjusted to new things, testing you by letting you pet them, coming out a little because they are curious and don't know what will come next. Each day becomes more routine, more safe, more knowledgable to them. You posted on 8/23 and today is 8/29...time is improving. This bonding time is important and you can choose the path of setting some boundaries but I never think love is
not a forced issue. This is an opinion from someone who has only had her baby for almost 2 years but I have read postings from many people with many birds with many years experience and you can do the same looking back in archives here as well as I am sure more people will post. Good Luck with you baby.


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My baby sunshine you are right.It isn't okay to force anything on these parrot,birds,cockatoo's.This is not the answer especially if the guy is skittish already.You may hinder any progress towards a relationship.

What I do is centralize the cage so he can see you alot.Don't make eyecontact with them as they see this as a threat.Talk to him soothingly and sing softly to him.Leave the cage open and supervise him when it is.This way when he feels safe he comes out to you and you know it is what he wants.Reading and eating near him so he can see you is good.he will feel like visiting you on his terms in time when he is ready.

This is about trust and building a relationship.I know I don't trust people over night and if things were forced on me I would be that much more right not to trust.If someone forced you into something there would be hard feelings right.You have to think that this poor guy doesn't understand you or what you expect either.You have to learn how to adjust your behaviour to his while the trust is being built.After the relationship and trust is formed then I'd say start teaching him commands and what you expect him to try to learn.Comfort is most important.When you read by him get some parrot reading material like behaviour books for parrots."Parrot for Dummies" is awsome as well as "The Parrot Problem Solver".Both focus on positive reinforcement and this is most effective when dealing with parrots of any kind.

Try thinking as if you were a bird.They do not always understand what is going on and the fact that they don't accept change well is already a stumbling block.Think if you were a deaf mute finding yourself in a new home with new people and no way to know if these people are good or bad.If they started grabbing and pulling you out of your room,you would be pretty scarred hey.This is the same fear your new birds are feeling and to me it isn't worth putting them through.

Your relationship will come it takes time and patience.That is how a good friendship is built.

Jan


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#56791 - 08/29/06 06:14 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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One other thing I'd like to mention is that I have never been a fan of gloves or mitts when you are dealing with the birds.If they are shy of your hands then bigger puffier colorful hands aren't going to cut it either.

IMHO get rid of the gloves and let him trust your hands.You wearing the gloves says you expect to be bit.If you have this fear then you have to deal with that.These feathered beauties sense every emotion we feel and if he senses you fear anything he will bite you.You need to face this fearless and all apprehensions need to be put to rest.If you need protection stick training for step ups is much more effective in time.You still need him to trust you first.

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