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#56792 - 08/29/06 06:32 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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thank God I haven't tried the gloves yet! lol..was just wondering. I understand what you are saying and all that. I am trying everything possible with-out forceing him to do things. but my main question is..do you think me having a Mohawk is a fear factor for Conner?? i hope not..I love him and adore him and want him to be a happy baby. My last bird I had was a conure..she loved me to death..but i hand fed her though.she knew no stranger...well atleast in men...she couldn't stand women for some reason...But I want Conner to love everyone equally to me...i know that it'll take time..right now he's sitting in his cage and making some tiny cooing sound i think..I sing dance and even kiss at him and he just sits there..when Jim ( roommate) somes in and makes a kissing sound or asks him how he is doing he bobs his head up and down and even dances for him..I am home all day doing everything I can think of to get him to do even that much for me...but he won't even bob for me..what do you think? I think it might be my mohawk...I had a hat on when i got him...should i wear the hat i wore when I got him? or let him see the mohawk more often?

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#56793 - 08/29/06 07:17 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hi Stevan,

It's hard to say actually.Gabby my CC2 likes my nephew and performs alot for him and most often when his mohawk is standing up.LOL.She won't go to anyone new but she will bob and dance and scream"Doing doing doing" at him.On the other hand When I had put some blue streaks in my hair she tried ripping them out and biting me.LOl.She tought me not to do that again.Unfortunately we can not control who they choose to love and not love.Our grey is prime example of that.He was really a good boy for me and liked me alot but has chosen my hubby for his loved one.I am home every single day all day with him and I am lucky to have even some sort of friendship with him.Once hubby comes home I am basically out of the picture again.They choose who they want and we have to just live with it.

In your case it is still early.It may be your uneasiness around Conner that he is still picking up on.You will need to keep him socialised so the skittish tendencies will fade.Show him all kids of new things and hats.Of course this all happens after he trusts you and you won't hurt him with these items and people.

Jan

Edit:I forgot to mention that when cockatoos put up thier crest to display it can be a fear display.Try to find some info on body language in cockatoo's to help with this.


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#56794 - 08/29/06 09:32 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Thank you so much for that...He's on the bed right now...it is 3:20 pm..much later than my last post..but he is at the foot of the bed away from me..but seems to be wondering what i am doing and keeps easing over to the side to see what it is i am doing...when I look in his direction (not at him) he moves back to where he was as if he wasn't doing anything...I rub the top of my head and he flares he's crest and clicks his beak...then he makes a sound that sounds like he's laughing at me! lol...I do have alot of patience and a load of time...i can handle the wait....Just worried some about his mentle state....wonding if only one toy is enough...how many he should have...what types to use roped,beaded,etc...as you probly already know he has one with a bell on it...as i also said before he knows if he rings it 5 times ..I'll open his door...is that a good thing to do?? honestly I'm not scared of him or have any other misreadings toward him...I am used to him...i just want to figure him out...my mothers C2 hadn't seen me til she had him for 4 years...the very first day he jumped off his perch..ran across the floor and pounced on me with kisses and hugs...he's even drug one of his toys across the floor for me to throw it so he can chase it and play "fetch!" lol..her C2 is a bare-eye as well....but you are right..i have to findout what his body language is...I'll keep working on it and all and see what happens...hopefully I'll beable to tell you that he is fine and loveing on me...we'll see...thanks so much for the advice Janny

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#56795 - 08/29/06 11:24 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Stevan, maybe just relaxing a little bit around him and not worrying too much about it will help. Toos are good emotion readers, are you being anxious around him?

I think it's kinda funny, but it sounds to me like he thinks you have a crest too, although in a permanent display. How tall is it? Could you wash it out and let it hang so it doesn't look like you're a too in full display?

The bell toy is a good start, but they need lots of toys to choose from. 10-12 is what I've been told by a couple different vets and bird people. Keep in mind though, that to a too, dang near anything can be a toy. Betty has in her cage a couple of get ups that are sold as "bird toys", but also has a bunch of homemade stuff, pieces of stainless steal hardware screwed into bird safe wood, strings tied in knots, lengths of plastic chain. It's also important for them to have stuff that they can chew and destroy, like wood blocks.

I'm so glad that you found this sight and are sticking around to learn all you can for Conner. Can you post a pic of him?

Cat

EDIT: I forgot to ask, what do you know of his background? How old is he? Petstore or rescue? It might help to understand some of his behavior.

#56796 - 08/30/06 01:11 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hey Stevan,

I know exactly what you are going through.You look at them and want to hang out with them so badly.You do want everything to be okay.In time it will.

As for toys Cat is right.Alot of chew toys to keep thier beak in shape.If you need cheap toys you can make them.I bought an untreated 2x4 and sawed it into all sizes of blocks.I drilled holes in them and bought hemp rope from a craft store to hang them on.Tie all kinds of knots into it and you can add plastic beads to it,just be creative and have fun.Let Conner watch you build him these toys and hopefully he will play with some of the peices too.You can also buy wooden beads from the craft store to hang as well.If you look at the toys for birds on the internet you can replicate most of them.I love to build my own for my babes it is much cheaper too.Just be carefull the products are safe and not treated with chemicals.To dye the blocks I use food coloring and make sure to let them dry overnight so you don't have a Rainbow Brite 'too.lol.

Your Welcome forr the advice.I hope it will help.You do seem very commited to Conner

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#56797 - 08/30/06 07:06 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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my mohawk is 3 inches high when standing...I only stand it up when i go out..It's always laid flat when I am with Conner..He is 1 and 1/2 years old...i got him from a Petstore...

Janny

Now all of those toys for him?? well I better get to work! LOL..Conner is worth it and much more to me...He did sit near me tonight and watched Scarey Movie 4 with me...well at least looked like he was when i would glance over...but of course..he was closer to Jim than me...lol he is in his cage right now sleeping..poor thing is pooped from looking at me acting like a fool all day! lol dancing around like a crazy man doing the funky chicken and all! I'll try to figure out how to post a pic of him on here...can I post it in one of my posts or do I have to put it in the main page? well I'll try to get a pic of him on here soon

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#56798 - 08/31/06 06:20 PM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hey again,

Ok here's some tiny bit of good news...Conner seems to be a little less skittish...but he's still being a little iffy...He comes out of his cage a little more...Just yesterday..he came out of his cage and slowly eased his way over to me and showed interest in wanting to be held..so i put out my arm and told him to step up..I was amazed how fast he got on my arm then started (I guess) cooing and kissing...even did a little dance for me and even said hello a couple of times...I praised him and petted him and gave him all the love I could dish out...even put him close to my chest and cuddled him...Conner just bathed in it...loving every hug i gave him...But that only lasted about 10 minutes...as soon as he hurd the front door he shot str8 to his cage...now he won't come back out...what should i do about that??? or just keep on waiting til he decides to not worry about anything and stays??

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Sounds like you guys made a good bit of progress. Don't worry, if he loved the snuggling, he'll come back out for more, just give him some time.

Thanks for the info on the mohawk, it sounds like that's probably not scaring him, I was just playing out an idea there.

Now get to work on those toys! <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />

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I am going to be getting all the things I need to make him some toys this weekend...and today he came to me yet again...but only after he ran from Lee (other roomie). he apparently hates Lee with a passion! lol he tries to bite lee when i am holding him or he gets close to him..lol..Plus i tired something today too...I stood my whole mohawk up to see how he'd respond to it and as soon as he saw it ...he stood his up and did a dance...came to me and made clicking sounds and different kinds of movements..even carressed me with his beak...A friend of mine was here when I did it and said that Conner was "courting" me. eek Do you think that is true?? or can that be possible???
well anyway i am still trying to work with him...more to come..

Stevan

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Seems that you are doing great!

On the toys, they are very important. It is part of what is called "enrichment". A cockatoo mind is never at rest, they need a steady stream of things to challenge their curiosity and intellect. It is as imortant as proper exercise and uses energy at a faster rate just like exercise.

Even food can be presented in a toy fashion. Put chunks of vegetables on a skewer and hang it in a hard to get to corner. Different foods can be used, they can be cut different ways, they can be woven into toys, etc. Pellets and nuts can be put into plastic puzzle toys that they must manipulate to get the goodies out.

Toys do not need to be expensive. Check the "Cages, Aviaries and Toys" section. Another important point is to make sure your 'Too can make choices. This means several toys rotated regularly. There will be toys your bird may never seem to touch but they should be kept in the rotation because they represent a choice, even if it is not exercised.

Continued best luck! smile

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Stevan so glad to hear things are looking up for the relationship.It does sound like Conner is really taking a liking to you and could possibly be courting you.Thank you so much for the update.

Jan

P.S. you can buy alot of cheap things in the baby department for your 'too.Mine love the baby spoons and chain link rings that clip together.You can find all kinds of treasures.


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#56803 - 09/01/06 12:40 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Hi Stevan!

I got a good chuckle out of your mohawk. I had a great one back in the early 1980s. It was blue. It's nice to know that the next generation has kept the trend going!

Anyway, a cheap source of wood toys to chew on is an art supply house like Michaels. They have tons of little wood things like clipless clothes hangers and little spools and things. My G2 (about the same size as your BE2) just loves them. They also sell unpainted alphabet blocks super cheap. You can spend 10 bucks and keep your bird happy for a week or two, and believe me, that's a bargain.

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#56804 - 09/01/06 04:00 AM Re: Need Help with my New Cockatoo  
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Birds jump at sudden noise alot, Is there any where you can put the cage so when hes out he can't see it? That might help make him cling to you when he is shocked. My Macaw always grabs for me when there is a loud sound and she is with me, I would much rather her do that then jump off me, if I do take her out side I sure don't want her to jump off...But that is some thing to work on, its great he is comming to you, are you sure its a Male? If not when you get the chance to pet him pet him as you would a dog from head to tail, when you get to the tail group it in your hand and give just a little wiggle back and forth in a downward motion. If its a mutured femal she will settle in like huddle down and just love it. And yes it sounds like he?she is courting you. Your doing great keep it up.. smile I don't know if this is a correct way of sexing, but birds pelvis is like ours, a male has a one piece bone, the female has a split in the middle so she can open to allow the egg to come out. Much as a women dialation. If your birds let you rub them all over try feeling..??

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That might help make him cling to you when he is shocked.
I completely disagree. Ever heard of displacement aggression, sometimes put "If you can't bite the one you want, bite the one you're with!" eek

I also disagree about tugging on the tail of a mature bird!

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I didn't say tug, I said wiggle. I agree if you tug a big birds tail you may come away missing a finger. lol Most dogs love to have their back scrached right by the tail, so do birds..lol

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I dont have ONE BIRD that likes that and I have a house full.

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Bud-Bud will fly back to his cage immediately if something scares him. Like itheone has said, I don't think this is necessarily a good thing. If he gets scared in an unfamiliar place he might get in trouble by flying away. I'd rather he stayed on me when scared.

I would definitely say not to wiggle the tail feathers or do "full body" petting. In a mature cockatoo this type of stroking encourages sexual feelings/behaviours. With Cricket I am very careful to stick to her head. If I pet all over her body she quivers and pants, particularly if I play with her tail. She might be enjoying it at the moment but ends up frustrated. When she gets frustrated she gets "bitey" and screams. And then we are both unhappy frown

Edit: mom2beebop we must have posted at the same time! smile Cricket LOVES it if you gently tug on her tail and will turn to try to get you to do it but I think (JMO) that it is sexual to her.

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ithe1...this is a new bird owner here.I do not think rubbing a birds tail base is appropriate especially when the poor guy doesn't even have the body language down pat yet.

Stevan... I urge you to refrain from doing this.If this is a sexually mature cockatoo you could wind up being bitten due to hormones raging.There are certain spots you will want to stay clear of when petting a sexually mature bird so that you don't spark any agressive or hormonal behaviours.If you want to know what the sex of your bird is take him to a vet for the propper tests to be done.It is a DNA test.When I pet Gabby I try to stick to her head for petting.She will come towards me with her wing in the air to be pet under it but I try not to and if she insists I will for very a very brief time.I try hard to refrain her from this kind of petting so that it won't cause problems later.I still pet her back a bit and over her wings.I try not to do alot of body petting though.For the most part Gabby is okay with the petting everywhere but she is coming to the sexually mature age and I don't want to make things harder for her/him because there are many sexually stimulating areas.With our grey you don't want to go near his tale or anything but head petting unless you don't like the flesh on the fingers and want it removed.Some birds don't like the touching at all so just be very carefull.

I think it was Charlie who said if you lightly blow under thier wings it will slowly get them away from this kind of petting also.

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I pet my birds all over, its called preening, I feel for new feathers and try to rub the shuts they come in. I don't know the name of it, new feathers come in a covering, some places are hard for the bird to get to and those areas I get to for them, I have no problem touching my birds legs, tails, under the wings, all over the body, my birds love all the attention, much like a dog would...I don't think I am sexualy stimulating them :rolleyes: . The tail feathers on my Macaw are so long some times when she preens them she breaks them, so I try to get to them first..Haveing the trust of your bird that it lets you handle it this way is a good thing, also helps me look for any sores or insects. And DNA testing is exspensive, I have 8 birds at the moment, I don't have 8 grand. <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />

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I hope there are places you could have the DNA tests a LITTLE cheaper than a grand, aren't there? eek I think I've seen ads for mail-in testing in Bird Talk?
Although I haven't bothered to have it done, because I'm pretty sure mine are both males (no eggs, ever, from th 16-year-old conure, and clear evidence from color patterns on the tiel) you might want to know in case of possible egg binding if the bird is fairly young.

Your bird may be courting you, or may just be exhibiting some social interest; after all, he/she was probably not raised in such a way as to have any idea of "polite social behaviour" in either the human or the avian societal framework, unfortuantely. frown It does sound as if he/she is feeling lots more safe and comfortable with you. Keep up the good work.


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