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#40126 - 09/28/03 06:52 AM Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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My wife and I are very seriously considering purchasing a Ducorps Cockatoo... and am not certain where to turn for good advise. I would like direct honest advise and experience on their temperament and potential problems that I may expect. We have two children ages 7 and 9 and I am concerned about the parrots comfort around children and general temperament. thank you for your help.

#40127 - 09/28/03 02:36 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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I would STRONGLY recommend you consider another type of parrot instead of a cockatoo. There are several wonderful species out there that better fit an active family with children. Decide what characteristic you consider important and then research the species to find the best match. Do you want a cuddly bird? Cockatoos are not the only cuddly birds out there. Do you want a bird that mimics? Many species have this capability. How much noise can you handle? Some species, cockatoos include, are not suitable for apartment dwellers and noise sensitive people. Do you have allergies? Cockatoos produce a tremendous amount of dander/dust. How much time do you have on a daily basis to take the bird out and spend one-on-one time? Cockatoos are the most demanding in this area, but in general, any parrot will need quality time with you on a regular daily basis. How much money do you want to invest in cage, playgym, toys, food, etc.? The bigger bird the bigger the expense. Next is to find an avian vet in your area. This is important so you will know how far you have to travel in the event of an emergency (and yes, they do happen). After all that, comes the time for your bird to find you. Birds do choose who they want to be their family. Consider adopting rather than buying a baby. I have adopted birds over the age of 10 with great results. Join your local bird club, talk with area rescues, visit with your avian vet, check out the area newspapers. Take your time and don't rush into the first bird that you THINK you want. If the bird appears to bond with you, ask if you can come back tomorrow. Go home, research the species, think about it, go back and if you and the bird click...consider taking the bird home.

Don't fall into the trap of trying to "rescue" a bird from a pet shop. They have a dozen more just waiting in the wings to turn a quick dollar off our emotions. Good luck.

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#40128 - 09/28/03 04:45 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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thanks for your advise... can you provide me with specifics about Ducorps. From reading the Real Cockatoos Fact I understand that there many things to consider before purchasing a Cockatoo parrot. However, I have not heard or read anything about Ducorps that would cause us to reconsider them. I would like to hear from someone that has had a Ducorp for more than 4 years. I have heard that there temperament is different from M2 and U2s is this true ?

#40129 - 09/28/03 05:13 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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Hi, I have a Ducorp cockatoo who is a love. She is not quite two years old so I do not know what the future holds. What Lea says is true, they demand a lot of one on one. Mine cried for the first 8 months that I had her and I can tell it does get on your nerves after awhile. I think the ducorps are a little larger than the goffen. My husband and I are home most of the time so she gets a lot of attention. She does prefer me over my husband. I have grandchildren who do live next and she gets along with them fine. After the crying finally stopped she has been great. I do think they are a lot easier than the larger toos. She is very calm but can get very noisy in the afternoon when she really gets active. They are funny little birds and if you have the time to spend with them and a lot of one on one I think they are great. Mine is not quite two so maybe some one who has an older one can give you more information on them as they get older.

#40130 - 09/29/03 09:46 AM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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Hi there,
Yes,info on Docorps cockatoos are hard to come by because they fall under the less common species of coackatoos.
I have had my Ducorps cockatoo for 6 weeks now.She is 2,5 years old and a beauty.She tests a persons patience more than what can be tolerated sometimes by her screaming.But as anyone on this forum will tell you - Cocakatoos ALL SCREAM!!!Snowby,my Ducorps have a very strong personality and can turn from a real monster into the sweetest,cutest bird alive.One minute you want to make cockatoo soup and the next you think she is soooo adorable.
You did not say whether you want to buy a baby or a adult Ducorps?This will also play a big role as any adult cockatoo may have behaviour problems from a previous situation or home.
Keep reading myttoos for info,you will find all the answers here.If you decide to buy a Ducorps,I read they are of the quiter species but I dont believe that from experience with my own Ducorps!!But I love her to pieces. laugh
Good luck.

#40131 - 09/29/03 03:40 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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I also have a ducorps 2. She is still a baby though, only turning 1 years old next month. I have had her since she was 6 weeks old, and she is the love of my life.
Like Katy Girl's d2, Gina also cried non-stop for the first 8 months. It was very frustrating for us when she started this crying as we knew nothing of the D2 when we got her and were not told about the crying stage, we thought we were doing something wrong. Thank goodness a very dear friend helped me through it all wink
All I can say is that she is absolutely wonderful, but needs a lot of attention. Also she is pretty nippy at the moment. She's only playing but does bite quite hard. She's also only really noisy when she is displaying. Although I don't mind the noise at all, its whats to be expected from a too. And being a too she is always out and about looking to destroy something in the house!!
I bought a harness for her and took her on her first outing last week. She was wonderful and was friendly with everyone, even allowing people (who I knew) to give her a scratch.
I have no idea what she will be like when she is older, I would be interested to know, but I still wouldn't trade her in for anything in the world!

#40132 - 09/30/03 02:23 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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When ever there is a question about the suitability of any type of pet and children what it all boils down to is the kids and parents involved.Obviously an infant that still takes naps wouldn't work out well with a noisy cockatoo but once a child is school age they should be able to be counted on to mind their parents and behave in an acceptable way.When I first got my Molluccan I had a home daycare,no infants,the kids knew never to stick their fingers in the cage and Cecil loved having screaming contests with them.He does need to be watched when he is loose around my 8 year old because he is little bit of a bully with him but he has to be watched anyway or he'd chew the house down.I just hope what ever bird you choose is a second hand bird because there are so many out there that need a good home.

#40133 - 09/30/03 05:12 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  

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One of my birds is a ducorps cockatoo. He's 17 months old. I have also had an umbrella cockatoo. The ducorps is much less needy and more independent than the U2. And, also, my D2 needs far less cuddling time than the U2 required. I also think the D2 (at least in my case) is a little more nippy. Charlie (my D2) tends to get real excited and forgets his beak hurts. Otherwise he is a very good bird and loves toys and can entertain himself for hours. Mine is very quiet. The sounds he does make are so darn cute. My little guy is a clown and is always making us laugh. He also talks very well. However, I would not trust him around young children. I personally don't think cockatoos should be companion birds at all. But that's just MOHO. Hindsight is always 20/20. Quakers are wonderful family birds as are cockatiels. Good luck in your search. smile Glenda

#40134 - 10/01/03 04:39 AM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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I am grateful I found this site and also for the candid advise all of you have been willing to share. Are there any larger breed parrots in terms of Amazons, Greys etc that any of you would recommend or we should consider? My family loves animals and is able to provide the proper space (large cage or small aviary) and other resources (toys etc) for a large or medium sized parrot. As I recently researched many different parrots I have been provided many of the same responses I have found here in terms other large breed parrots temperament, and other potential problems. Many people have encouraged us to steer clear of making such a commitment. We are home most of the time (other than professional commitments) and enjoy the pets we have quite a bit.
Finally, can what are the pros and cons of adopting a parrot ?

#40135 - 10/01/03 05:08 AM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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I have a friend with Amazona and Greys and from what I have observed, I wouldn't recommend them to a family with young children. LARGE parrots in general, may not be suitable for an active family with young children. There are several medium sized parrots that you could consider. Green-Cheek conures are quiet and comical. They love to play and enjoy cuddles. There are other conures that also fall into that catagory, but most conures tend to be noisy. Quakers are funny little creatures with great talking ability, but they do tend to be territorial and are illegal in some states. I have heard some good things about Senegals, but don't have any first hand knowledge, so I'll have to depend on someone else to tell us about them. Cockatiels are great birds. Some people are happy to have only tiels.

Instead of trying to pin point which bird you want, why don't you take a look at what is available to you and then do some research on the species and visit the bird to understand the personality and see if things "click". A bird can be a wonderful companion, but its not always an easy accomplishment. You must be prepared to dedicate time, attention, and discipline to your new family member.

Please read "The 3 Minute Version - Checklist" http://www.mytoos.com/checklist.html

Good luck.

Lei

#40136 - 10/01/03 01:25 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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Good for you for doing your homework. bringing a parrot into your home is a big decision. Many of the Cockatoos can be demanding and some parrots in general do not like high activity levels, while others love it. Parrots and children can be a wonderful pairing as long as it is done right. What Lei is saying is true check out a rescue adopting an older bird can be just as rewarding as buying a baby. Look into other parrot species and figure out what your family might expect in a parrot. Remember a reputation for talking does not mean it will talk remember also the bigger the bird the bigger everything else cage, toys, ect. As far as your children 7 and 9 are old enough to get a parrot in your home and learn about it. Our club has members who have children about the ages of yours and they interact wonderfully with the larger parrots their parents own. Amazons and Greys, and once again I have to agree with Lei, are not the kind of birds I would reccomend with small children around I know this from being owned by a couple of them. <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> Keep doing your research there are many smaller parrots that can be a joy to own. The most important factor is to find a bird that will fit in with your lifestyle and expectations. What ever type you choose love for what it is not what it can do. Good Luck!

#40137 - 10/01/03 05:19 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  

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I would agree with the others. No Amazons, Cockatoos, or Greys. Wonderful birds, but not good with children. I would recommend a cockatiel. They are a good starter bird and very sweet. Or if you want a larger bird, the Pionus's are wonderful birds. They are smaller than most Amazons, but larger than conures. I have a Maxmillian Pionus and he is sweet as can be. He can get nippy when in his cage, but out of his cage he is a doll. Very quiet and a wonderful personality. He is also a very good eater. My 12 year old daughter handles him just fine and we have had him since she was 9. Good luck on your search. You are going about it just perfect. Research, Research, Research. I would also look into an older bird that needs a home. All of my birds are re-homed and they are just wonderful. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. smile

#40138 - 10/01/03 08:54 PM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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As a new owner of a parrot, I agree you should take Lei's suggestion and read the three minute checklist. I also suggest you go a step further and try to live as if you already have a parrot in the home for a week or two. It's easy to say you can live without Teflon and chemical sprays, etc. but I don't think any one realizes how much of that we take for granted in our daily routines. Trying to convert my family now that we already have Patch has been an experience. What was willingly agreed upon has become a lesson in reality that wasn't fully comprehended by my teenagers. Though I have no regrets getting her, changing the little things has been the hardest.

#40139 - 10/02/03 03:03 AM Re: Advise requested on Ducorps.  
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We have had Dusky Conure for sometime her name is Angel. I remember going through the experience of converting our home for our parrot. She has been a good experience. Just like anyone in our family she has her needs and her good days and of course days that are more challenging. Nonetheless, I did read the three-minute guideline and found it be quite good at summarizing live with a parrot. We know what life with her is like and I want to learn as much as possible before looking at life with a larger parrot with a different temperament.

Incidentally, since you are setting your home up for your parrot we stumbled on an idea years ago that our bird enjoys very much. We installed decorative hooks on a number of ceilings (all bedrooms and the home office) and hung large wooden birdhouses and hanging play toys on some. It has given our parrot the opportunity to have a play area in many rooms in the house. Perhaps a number of other people are doing the same.


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