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#32777 - 08/31/06 02:25 AM Himalayan Goji Juice & Parrots  
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Does anyone know of any research done (by avian experts!) about the safety/efficacy of goji juice use in parrots? I know the people who market the product say it is safe for birds, but while i'm convinced that it's a great people-product, i'll wait til i hear from an avian source before i'd ever give it to my 'toos. has anyone heard or read anything? Thanks, as always, for your input, ---julie

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I'm very curious...what is goji juice? Why do people drink it?

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People drink Goji juice for a great variety of health reasons. Himalayan Goji is the most nutritionally dense food (that we know of to date) on the planet, according to Dr. Earl Mindell, author of "The Vitamin Bible" and several other books on nutrition. Goji is often taken to help insomnia, to increase energy, for migraines, for fibromyalgia--the list goes on. To find out more , you can go to drron@freelife.com, or simply google himalayan goji. I have found one reference to a vet who used goji to help treat PBFD, but i'm still looking for all the info I can get. I hear people every day at my new job just exclaiming how wonderful Goji has been for them,so I'm convinced it is great for people, but being parrot-minded, I'm always looking for answers--esp. for my feather-chewing U2!!

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Thanks for the info. I will definitely look it up...I need all the help I can get! <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />
Edit: Sorry! I wasn't trying to make light of your feather chewing U2 I just hadn't ever heard of this juice - and I really do need every ounce of help I can get!

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Relle--if you really are serious about checking out Goji juice, I xan definitely help you with that--just hook up with me at my e-mail address. I'll look forward to hearing from you!--Julie

#32782 - 09/09/06 06:15 AM Re: Himalayan Goji Juice & Parrots  
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gain, and is whistling his cheerful little cockatiel tunes once again. She cannot believe the changes in just a week.I would stilllike to hear what a vet would say about Goji, but I tend now to believe it would not be toxic.

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somehow,I lost the first part of my new post, in which I explained that my friend gaveher cockatiel Goji.He is 17 years old and always looked old--eyes a little dull, feathers always bedraggled, usually found napping on his perch. After a week on Goji, his eyes are bright andalert, his feathers look GORGEOUS,and he is flying around again.

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I saw my friend Ann today at an holistic pet fair (not one parrot rescue was there). The cockatiel that she has been giving Goji juice to has 3 new blood feathers coming in on his left wing. Normally, this wouldn't be a big deal, except that he broke that wing over 10 years ago and hasn't grown a new feather in ever since! I think that is incredibly awesome, and so does Ann--I just thought I'd share it with you guys. I also met quite a few people who give Goji to their dogs and cats every day for various reasons, so I guess I'm not alone in wanting to share this with the members of my family who aren't quite human!

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Hi Julie,

I wonder if you got in touch with a University Vet if they could give you more info on the goji juice to see if there is anything harmfull in it.It obviously has some benifit to the avians.It sure would be great to know for sure.Thanks for keeping us updated.Great to hear about new things.

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#32786 - 09/17/06 06:56 PM Re: Himalayan Goji Juice & Parrots  
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Please pardon my ignorance, but is this something that can be bought at a store? It sounds so familiar to me for some reason. Is this a MLM product? I'm one of those people who gets prospected by everyone...

(I'm not judging-I just want to try it on my 17 year old puppy who the vet says will go anytime)

Robbie

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I would be very careful with anything as powerful as that sounds. If it enabled a bird with a damaged wing to grow feathers on that wing for the first time in years, it is powerful enough to stimulate growth where you don't necessarily want it, which is the exact nature of cancer. Some plant substances will do that: the reason licorice and comfrey are seldom used any more, although they are quite good medicinal herbs, is because they encourage growth, and some organs, in some individuals, respond to that encouragement far too "enthusiastically".
I don't want to scare you, just encourage caution. Almost anything can be "OD"ed.


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The only reference I could find to this "product" was for this slick web site. Pets were mentioned once on the search engine.

http://gojiexpress.com/index.cfm?fuseAction=main.home&setOwner=ljmhealth

I would not feed anything to my birds without an avian vets approval AND endorsement.

Your posts seem innocuous enough. Why is your username an e-mail address? Be careful about commercial endorsements on this website.

#32789 - 09/18/06 03:04 AM Re: Himalayan Goji Juice & Parrots  
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I went to the site Charlie linked to...

Is this juice the reason Paula seemed so, well... happy? on this last season of American Idol? :p

(sorry, couldn't control myself!)

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Hello again;
in response to a couple of your posts regarding my Goji post: first to Charlie-with all due respect, i am very new to the internet (just started in july '06),and did'nt realize that maybe I should'nt use my e-mail address as my user name-this was the first site I registered on. I am NOT trying to sell anything through this great forum. you may not know me, but I do have integrity. I'll gladly change my user name if you'd like. Next: You can't buy the only standardized Goji from a store, you have to buy it from FreeLife--you can google the website. It has been widely used with great results on dogs, cats, and other domestic animals. Goji will not cause cancer, it is in fact, a great cancer fighter due to the fact that it has more antioxidants and polysaccharides than any other food that we know of, and both of these things fight the free radicals which cause cancer. Finally...Over the weekend, I did meet with a holistic healer and master herbalist who works in conjunction with vets in my area, and she approved of Goji use. I started my U2 on it a few days ago, as she has been chewing up the vinyl floor in the bird room. Anyway, I hope that addressed your concerns, and I apologise if I unwittingly started a controversy-that was not my intention.

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Sorry, I forgot to address one thing in my last post-
I don't watch much TV and never, ever watch reality shows, so I have no idea who Paula is or why she was so happy on American Idol. Sorry--I could'nt resist either!

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Over the weekend, I did meet with a holistic healer and master herbalist who works in conjunction with vets in my area, and she approved of Goji use. I started my U2 on it a few days ago,
A holistic healer is still not an avian vet. Working with vets does not mean AVIAN vets. What is ok to use with other animals may not be ok for use with a bird. Their systems are totally different.

I didn't see anywhere in your posts as to the reason you want to give this stuff to your bird? Is she unhealthy?

This stuff sounds very similar to Tahitian Noni Juice, same type of claims etc, same sales pitch. There is really no reason to place things into your bird that isn't necessary, it could do more harm than good in the long run.

Just because something is "all natural" "holistic" or "herbal" certainly doesn't make it safe or useable for birds. Be very careful without talking to a true AVIAN vet.

Tammy

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You said:

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i'll wait til i hear from an avian source before i'd ever give it to my 'toos. has anyone heard or read anything? Thanks, as always, for your input, ---julie
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I did meet with a holistic healer and master herbalist who works in conjunction with vets in my area, and she approved of Goji use. I started my U2 on it a few days ago, as she has been chewing up the vinyl floor in the bird room.
Have you tried wooden toys?

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I hope I didn't offend, that was not my intention at all. I seriously am interested in anything to help my old doggie and am very curious about this juice. It sounded familiar and I was just trying to remember why and find out how to get it.

If you don't watch AI the joke wouldn't make sense. I saw Paula Abdoul (?) on the website and went for it.

Again, I apologize if I offended you. I really didn't mean to!

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wow--thank you all for your truly concerned and well thought out replies. It is great to know that my'toos is really the caring community that it promises to be, and that I can depend on you for straight answers. The herbalist I spoke of does work with 3 avian vets (board certified) in our area. Goji is totally different than Noni. Zoey has been tearing up the vinyl flooring in the bird room, and i'm afraid she'll become ill from that(we did finish putting in ceramic tile yesterday),that was why I started her on the Goji--I figured it had to be better for her than the flooring, and perhaps it could forestall an illness. Anyone who wants to get Goji can go to celebritysmiles@aol.com or gojiberrygirl@myspace.com I am not familiar with the website that Charlie mentioned, the only other one I know is the freelife one.

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In the absence of native plants from "my" birds' ancestral homes, I try to stick to organically grown, mostly locally produced (like, in my yard) fruits and vegies, and certified OG, HFG grains and nuts: the same stuff I like to put in my own body. I realize they have different needs than I do, and do keep pellets available.
I think I'd probably be more inclined to want to try a fruit juice if it came from an area where parrots live. This is JMHO, of course. If wild parrots eat it, it is probably safe. They have enough "smarts" to avoid things that make them sick. The same is not necessarily true of the foods "other birds" eat. Some stuff that other birds eat can make parrots ill, or kill them.


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