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#30395 - 03/30/05 03:49 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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Is your U2 better now and did you find out what caused so the seizures?

I'm glad to hear that the grape problem info is getting around and hope no other birds are lost.

#30396 - 03/30/05 11:50 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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As I mentioned in an earlier post, our avian vet also said "NO GRAPES", and he didn't even know about Sterling's tragedy.

#30397 - 03/31/05 07:32 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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Oh wow, I didn't realize the vet wasn't even talking about the grape scare. What is his reasons for not giving grapes?

#30398 - 03/31/05 08:19 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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He feels that there is very little nutrition, but lots of water and bulk. He doesn't believe in empty nutrition.

#30399 - 04/01/05 03:51 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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Thanks, that makes sence.

#30400 - 04/03/05 12:18 AM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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I AM SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR BIRDS, MY BIRD (LILY) I HAVEN'T GAVE HER GRAPES BECAuse she had deny them are oranges and bananas ok???

#30401 - 04/03/05 02:10 AM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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I personally stay away from anything that is imported. Especially from Chile or Mexico. I only by things that are grown in the USA. If you look at the labels on the fruit or veggies it will specify where it is from. I still wash the fruit and veggies and dry them completely.Also, if a veggie or fruit is not in season here, I buy frozen. Better to be safe then sorry. Karen

#30402 - 04/11/05 06:48 AM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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Has a cause of death been determined for the 8 parrots that Sterling at All Cape Parrot Rescue lost in Feb.? I never did hear that is was
definitely the grapes.
Cheryl

#30403 - 04/11/05 03:06 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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He posted the results on his web site.

#30404 - 04/11/05 06:38 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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I am so sorry to hear about your lose Sterling. I wouldn't have been able to stop crying. It made me cry just to read your message.

I bought some blueberries for pancakes over the weekend. I checked on the plastic box they came in and it said from Chili. I think it's a very good a safe idea to no longer give our birds any fresh fruit unless it is grown in ones back yard. The only fruit that my G2 is interested in is apples. Now I am wondering where the apples come from. Again, I am so sorry about your birds Sterling.

#30405 - 04/13/05 06:24 AM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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If this is Sterling's website, where is an update on the cause of death of his birds?

http://www.allcapeparrotrescue.com/

#30406 - 04/13/05 02:42 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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I don't know about the website but this is from page three of this thread. Just scroll down and look for Sterlings posts.

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Hi all heard from the vet

He said the report lists the cause of death as organophosphate poisoning, (see below) which is a family of pesticides commonly used in flea collars and bug sprays, (those are just a couple of examples he mentioned), and often used on plant, fruit and vegetables to ward off insects.

He said the pesticides reside on the skin of the fruit/veg and its very possible that the grapes that were fed to the birds that lived did not have as high a concentration of the pesticide still on the grape skins even after washing. He feels that the grapes were the culprit in this horrible tragedy.

#30407 - 04/13/05 03:16 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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Sterling posted on Mar 25 "He (the vet)said the report lists the cause of death as organophosphate poisoning". I guess my question is ... what was the source of this poison? Were the grapes tested to see if this poison was there in an amount that would not only kill 8 birds, but also make his daughter sick. I have followed this story since it happened in Feb. I have always doubted that the grapes (in the condition they were bought at the store) were the culprit. I have always wondered if there was something more ominious involved in the death of the birds. I have always wondered about the volunteers who brought the grapes to the rescue center. I just don't believe it was the grapes (unless there was something added to them after they left the store).

#30408 - 04/13/05 04:15 PM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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I seriously doubt anyone *laced the grapes wih poison.....
What happened to these birds isn't all that un-heard of....especially with wild birds.

Diagnosis
As postmortem findings are usually not revealing, diagnosis is usually made by laboratory analysis. The most reliable diagnostic test is the determination of the acetylcholinesterase level in red blood cells, but it must be performed on fresh samples. Acetylcholinesterase levels can be determined on red blood cells, whole blood or plasma. The analysis which is usually used is the detection of organophosphate degradation products in the stomach contents and liver and kidney tissue. Analysis of brain tissue for decreased acetylcholinesterase levels is also good if done within a few days following death.

You can read the entire article here....

organophosphate poisoning

#30409 - 04/16/05 12:28 AM Re: FOOD ALERT! .. WARNING!  
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i am sorry for your loss to. it is ws devastating to lose one animal yet more then one in a matter of such a short time. please accept my condolences. they may only be a bird but they are our family too. this is also such a reason that our free trade is going to hurt all americans. we could all send this to some of the news channels. they did a peice about some people who went into a show barn full of horses and injected them with cobra venom. it made national news. due to the fact that it caused such a fast death and you did an autopsy it might get a look at the news channels in your local area and maybe then spread around the country. this needs to be a warning for every person about the safety of your food supply. try lou dobbs too. he is going after free trade and outsourcing, and the food suply is in great danger. again i am sorry for your loss.

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