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#259659 - 05/31/16 08:57 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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The thing I want to remind you of that there are definite stages on a bird's life. Peaches is a prepubescent bird now, one day Peaches will be an adult bird. Sometimes the change is gradual and sometimes it is sudden.

To use the analogy of Seven Card Stud, Peaches was dealt a set of genetic cards. Some of those cards are showing now, and some of those cards will not be shown until Peaches reaches adulthood. You must remember that cockatoos are not domesticated and when those genes come-to-light the results may not be pleasant.

When a young bird is well socialized some of the problems can be mitigated, but the behavior issues can not be solved permanently. Depending what those hidden cards turn up, the problems may turn up so difficult you will not be able to handle them. It is all part of the-luck-of-the-draw. There is no test today that will tell you what to expect from Peaches when he/she is an adult bird.

#259680 - 06/03/16 08:26 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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Puccinis-

This site might seem negative to many folks who read it, but understand the collective wisdom of folks who have lived with Cockatoos for many, many years resides upon these pages.

You can have the patience that would rival Ghandi and I promise you, your new feathered buddy is going to push them to their limits on some days.

Like has already been stated, a juvenile bird is nothing like their adult self. Though, getting the routines in now will certainly help you in the long run so you both know what to expect.

At a minimum, Peaches will need to be out of her cage for a few hours every day. ( 3-4 at least ) If someone is home, they don't grasp the concept of " your time ". If you're home, your available for play and if you ignore him/her, you're gonna hear about it. I know you said you can handle vocalizations, but you'll understand what we're talking about soon enough.

I have heard Tic-Tac from up to a quarter mile away. It is impossible to ignore as sound that loud completely overwhelms everything you're doing.

You are going to get bit. It is inevitable. Whether it's hormonal, aggression or an accident when getting wound up while playing with a toy, it happens. It also hurts like hell. lol

Come to that realization right now and know how to respond to it when it does happen so you don't reinforce the behavior.

I like to think of Cockatoos as having a Jekyll and Hyde personality. One moment they're peaceful, content and cuddly and the next they're ripping the buttons off of your remote control, pooping on the cat and absolutely losing their mind at the insect that managed to get in the house and is flying about the room.


As to that backpack . . . .

You'll learn soon enough that the more expensive something is, the faster your new friend will attempt to dismantle it laugh


Do not discount the advice given here. You will not find a better place to lay things out as they are without sugar coating them.

#259683 - 06/04/16 03:47 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: nehumanuscrede]  
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OOOOOOO. Nice post, nehumanuscrede. All so true!


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#259686 - 06/05/16 11:54 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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I have only been a member for about 4 years. My U2 is 20 yrs old, and I have had her 17 of those years. The advice can be harsh sometimes, but I would rather be told straight up than have it sugar coated. All of these members have great advice. My suggestion to you would be to start reading the topics here on the site. There are tons of valuable information. I love my U2 but she definitely has a jecklyl/ Hyde personality when the hormones kick in. Doesn't mean I want to get rid of her, but information here will help you deal with it. Start reading... And good luck with Peaches😁

#259739 - 06/13/16 05:21 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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Thanks for your support everyone. Not angry at all and I'll take it from here. Guess I'll take my chances. Peace & Love

#259745 - 06/15/16 07:54 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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Thanks for everyone's support. Peaches and I will be just fine smile

#259771 - 06/19/16 10:37 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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I'm really sorry to read the comments to Puccinis7002. I've had cockatoos for over 35 years, I lurk here because there is good information (which even with all those years of experience I still seek), but rarely post because of the agenda/attacks on so many new members that drives them away. This thread made me sad and angry so boot me off if you want.

#259772 - 06/20/16 02:09 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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Jaclyn we try to help all that come but some just don't want to listen. If they want to be pig headed it's their choice. We will not coddle anyone at the cost of a too not receiving the care it deserves. If you take the time to read the entire thread you will see that she just wants to be told how wonderful a job she's doing. It's not going to happen. As far as booting you off the door here swings both ways, you know the exit.


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#259773 - 06/20/16 02:25 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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As Dr Phil says "You cannot change what you do not acknowledge".


Birds are angels who lift us up when our own wings forget how to fly.

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#259776 - 06/20/16 10:39 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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Be2cassie, I read the full thread and I just don't see it the way you do. I'm sad because I don't see the thread helping this 'too, which is the agenda. How has the reaction/comments helped this bird get better care? Advice was to return her / rehome her ... to what? Are you taking this bird? Charlie? Poster increased bird's time out of cage based on your feedback. Wants to learn, wants to do what's right. Seems to have said goodbye to this site (and as I said previously, there's lot if good info here and will 've needed as bird matures).

I am a "new member" since 2012 (that status seems to be based on frequency of posts, not time). I've only had my M2 35 years. I'm still learning.

I train dogs, using as close as possible 100% reinforcement training. I remember the dark ages of dog training with the choke collars, yanks, NO's ... can't tell you how 1000x better it is to train now with positives. The Mytoo site prides itself on harsh, no sugar coating etc ... but in my world it's not effective and hurting an agenda we share.

I won't let the door hit me as I exit.

#259778 - 06/21/16 02:40 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: Jaclyn]  
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Good, you are free to take all the valid information you want, as are all others. That is, after all, what we are here for. This site is open for all to read but you can take your own philosophies somewhere else and let us do the serious business of helping people with real cockatoo problems.

#260358 - 02/07/17 12:41 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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I just posted a question about this. What in the world are we doing to cockatoos that make them act so nutty? I think we are doing TOO much. Please give her time, and some much needed privacy.

#260359 - 02/07/17 01:23 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: darby18]  
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Originally Posted By darby18
I just posted a question about this. What in the world are we doing to cockatoos that make them act so nutty? I think we are doing TOO much. Please give her time, and some much needed privacy.


They are condemned to an unnatural life. A life of captivity. Locked in cages for hours every day. Crippled (wings clipped). Living life without a mate or a flock. Never able to reproduce or raise offspring. Forcing them to eat an unnatural diet. Hand rearing them. Taking them away from their parents (if they even are with them at all). There's a starter list of what we are doing to make them act so nutty.


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#260916 - 01/18/18 12:20 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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Okay, this did not fill me with hope. People, please remember that you are talking to human beings and not to the birds. Yes, this is a negative site but I realize it is here for a reason. But please, just try not to jump on anyone who decided to become a cockatoo parent.

#260917 - 01/18/18 12:24 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: EchosMom]  
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I agree whole heartily, but I don't think keeping them glued to your hip and giving in to their every whim is the answer. Most of the time these creatures don't even know they are a bird, and that is due to us.

I have seen pet wolves that trust quicker, and more fully, than these birds.

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#260918 - 01/18/18 12:30 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: BE2Cassie]  
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"She" is a human being with feelings. You might be awesome with birds but you could stand some work when it comes to people. I have worked with abused and cast off dogs and cats for years, and the last thing I ever want to do is alienate the people who bring them to me. Same way with a wolf rescue I belong to. I may be wanting to kick some rancher in his butt, but I know that reasoning and educating him is the answer.

#260920 - 01/18/18 12:47 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: darby18]  
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Darby18 please do not post back to back replies. If you have something to add to a post you already made, please utilize the edit feature to add additional commentary, rather than start a new reply. You should not reply to each individuals separately.

Also, please be cognizant of the date of the threads you are replying to. This one particular thread has not been commented on for almost a year.

And last, but not least, do not tell any of the staff how they should reply. We are here for the birds, not to win a people popularity contest. Please remember this is our home and you are a visitor.



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#260926 - 01/18/18 09:24 PM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: EchosMom]  
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I can understand two of those rules, but the other one is a little strange. I should not reply to each individual separately?? Are you kidding me? People are talking back and forth and replying to one another up above. In fact, I am replying to you because you replied to me! We are not suppose to interact with one another,...wow, is all I can say.

#260930 - 01/19/18 12:51 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: puccinis7002]  
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You misread what was said. Yes you can respond to each individual but within one post. There is no reason to make multiple back to back post, it just gets confusing.


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#260933 - 01/19/18 01:13 AM Re: New Owner of 4 month old Mobrella [Re: darby18]  
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We are not here for wolves or dogs. You are right that these large cockatoos are separate and above but you don't want to believe it. It's fine if you read and find help in the wealth of knowledge here but don't project and don't insult our moderators who have devoted years of their lives to these birds. I fully anticipate a bullshit and puffy response but that is nothing new to us. You will be thrown out and this whole "old" thread will be deleted. I hope you find our body of work useful. Many years of our lives have been devoted to it. We have had "you" here before and know what to do. "You" will come and go but the large cockatoos will need help and support probably forever mow. We are here to do our part.

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