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#231688 - 03/23/11 11:52 PM Not him self  
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I,l try and keep this short and to the point.
about 7/8 months ago i rescued a m2 that was in a bit of a sorry state some of you may remember.

at the time he was very wild and i wasn't able to get near him without him hissing and trying to bite me.

despite this he seemed to perk up always out climbing around his cage and shredding his toys all was well.

over time i have slowly broken down the barriers and at the moment i can now stroke his back although he still watches me carefully with his beck open ready to bite.

I have been bitten by him a few times now but never in a hard way yes it has hurt at time but more of a shock then anything and he,s never drawn blood.

but since ive been managing to stroke him he,s changed a lot.
he,s a lot quieter doesn't come out of his cage much anymore or grind he beak as much as he used to.
in general he,s very quite.
there have also been a few times over the past months when he,s fallen off his perch.

he,s eating well pleny of seed and fresh veg

#231692 - 03/24/11 02:07 AM Re: Not him self [Re: all sorts]  
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Were you able to locate an avian vet? Change in behavior and coupled with falling from his perch is worrisome and good reason to seek out a professional in avian medicine.


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#231697 - 03/24/11 05:22 AM Re: Not him self [Re: EchosMom]  
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Ditto what Em said.
Do not wait. Run. Now.

#231705 - 03/24/11 02:59 PM Re: Not him self [Re: Liisa B]  
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Seconding the posts above me, but also keep all petting to the head. If he's calming down because of it, one of the reasons might be because you're sending him signals that you 'want' to breed with him. But what with him falling off perches, a vet visit is an absolute MUST.


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#231714 - 03/24/11 09:13 PM Re: Not him self [Re: Sundial]  
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Well he,s more himself today chirping to himself. he hasn't fallen off his perch by himself its normally if i try to get near him its like he,s more interested in what im doing than holding on.
doesn't happen all the time maybe 3/4 times in the last couple of months.

the nearest vet is 100 miles round trip don't know hows he,s going to take to that.

#231716 - 03/24/11 09:50 PM Re: Not him self [Re: all sorts]  
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Hi all sorts 100 miles round trip really isn't that far to go, there are people on here that spend all day going to and from their avian vet. I know if it were my bird I would want to know if there is something wrong and what I could do to help him. Vet trips are never easy but they are an absolute must for their well being. I can identify with the bites I have received many some of which have drawn blood. Fortunately with help from the wonderful people here at mytoos I have been making lots of progress. Hope you are able to get him to the vet soon.
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#231721 - 03/25/11 02:39 AM Re: Not him self [Re: Amystar]  
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As Amy said, there are ALOT of members here that travel 100 miles (some more) 1 way to see an avian vet. And as for how he "takes it"...vhe will proper veterinary care is a responsibility, not an option. He will survive the trip in a carrier and vet exam...but he may not survive without. I'm with Amy...I hope you are able to get him to the vet soon.


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#231728 - 03/25/11 03:10 AM Re: Not him self [Re: EchosMom]  
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A healthy bird does not fall off perches. This bird is dealing with something. It could be foot issues, it could be neurological issues.....But he needs to be seen NOW!!!!!

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When you go to the vet, bring the perch. Perhaps it is part of the problem. The vet may be able to offer insights into what you can do to help this bird by changing things in his environment. This may be long term or short term, until the bird is healthier. I agree with everyone. If a bird is "not him self", a vet visit is in order.

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#231745 - 03/25/11 06:57 PM Re: Not him self [Re: Birdfriend]  
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Any update?Have you managed to get him to an Avian Vet?This really shouldn't wait.One day wait can mean allot to a parrot!

I would also start padding up the bottom of the cage with some old blankets and stuff so that when he does fall he won't get banged up so much.I used some old comforters folded up and placed at the bottom of the cage and surrounding the cage to soften the fall.If he is lets say just for example very anemic...you don't want him breaking blood feathers at all.


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#231757 - 03/25/11 10:32 PM Re: Not him self [Re: Janny]  
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Going to visit the vet tomorrow will update as soon as i know anything.

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We'll be anxiously waiting to hear...sending positive thoughts to both of you.


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#231774 - 03/26/11 02:47 AM Re: Not him self [Re: EchosMom]  
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Please let us know - we care!!!


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Anxious for an update and hoping that all is well! As Karen said, we all care!

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#231820 - 03/27/11 05:18 AM Re: Not him self [Re: MissYumYum]  
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Dont know how I missed this thread, but you are in my thoughts and prayers.


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#231821 - 03/27/11 05:33 AM Re: Not him self [Re: FeatheredAngels]  
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Do we get any update yet???How did he do???


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#231924 - 03/29/11 05:40 PM Re: Not him self [Re: Janny]  
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Bumping to see if there is an update yet?????


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#232005 - 03/31/11 10:36 PM Re: Not him self [Re: Janny]  
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Ok sorry for the late response, last week i took our bird to the nearest avian vet i could find 100 miles round trip.
Took me an hour to get him off his perch and into a carrier with almost constant screaming and trying to bite me.
Also found out he has very sharp claws to!

Well got to the vet waited 15 minuets then went in tried to get him out of the box the amount of screaming was unbelievable it must have been hear miles away.

Cut the story short i soon found out this vet was clueless when i asked he said there normal avian vet was off sick for the day.
He said he looked a bit scruffy but said this was due to him molting.
Anyway after the drive and the drama of it all i wasn't best pleased they could have at least told me when i booked the appointment!

put him back in his box with a bit less effort this time and drove home.

Had a number of a friend about a vet he had used in the past so i give him a call and spent half hour on the phone going through in details the problems.

He,s give me a calcium additive to put in his water this should help with his molt and feather.

He also give me a product called Guardian Angel Its a comprehensive supplement for sick or stressed birds.
Immune support probiotics vitamins and minerals plus long term energy.

Its been 2 days on this now and he does seem to be more himself not getting any worse that's for sure and he,s back to grinding his beak.

I,l update again in a few days.
thanks for all the kind messages.

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#232143 - 04/05/11 09:54 PM Re: Not him self [Re: all sorts]  
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Update for you all today birdi went back to a vet this time a proper avian vet.
He,s diagnosed a shortness of breath witch is down to an illness called chlamydohila.
Ive been proscribed some antibiotics to put in his water and booked anther appointment for a week thursday to do back and see him again.

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I am not sure how much you know about that diagnosis...but it doesn't hurt for you to google it and find out as much as you can about it since I believe that can be contagious to humans (zoonotic) and it would be advisable to be checked out by a Dr yourself and be very careful.I don't know if your AV discussed this with you or not but thought I should mention it just in case.I would imagine they have though.

This report was from 2007 but it is a safe link to post.


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