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#21053 - 12/27/06 05:39 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Troy may be going to a home who already has another M2. This home has no kids and is about 25 min away. The only down fall to this new place is he is wanting him for breeding and no one really knows this person. I told the orig owners that we got him from and who is coming to get him tonight, to go to his place and check it out so on and if they had any gut feelings they shouldnt leave him then dont and wait for the right home for him. So we will see I will also pass this site on to them and who knows maybe they will pass it along to whom ever takes him.

#21054 - 12/27/06 06:23 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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The only down fall to this new place is he is wanting him for breeding and no one really knows this person.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! MEMBERS PLEASE HELP ME OUT HERE!!!

Please do not put this poor creature in a breeding situation! OMG!!!!

Why can't you contact the rescues that Couragee gave you the names to? Is this a money issue?

Please, please, please, don't let him go to a breeder. We will HELP you find a good home for him!!!!

#21055 - 12/27/06 07:19 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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I really have to question your sincerity about Troy. Are you aware that cockatoos take years to bond and if just put together the hen may be killed or dismembered. This happens regularly:



You don't really know these people and this bird is just going to be handed over so you can go out and buy another chick. Blanka is seven years old and you think it will be a walk in the park from now on. I sincerely hope you keep reading this site to see how very wrong you can be. I pray that for your sake, Blanka's sake and mostly Troy's sake that you rethink this plan, find a good home or rescue for Troy and enjoy your time with Blanka. Buying a chick is a crapshoot and it can be really bad for all involved. Please think about this. I'm not trying to be mean or run you off.

#21056 - 12/27/06 07:25 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Charlie, thank you. smile

#21057 - 12/27/06 10:14 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Why can't you contact the rescues that Couragee gave you the names to?

It is NOT my bird to do anything with but give it back to the owners.. We were doing a trial basis and it didnt work.

This is my last post so get over yourselves, I never said it was always going be like this with Blanka but you never know if we keep doing what we have for 7 yrs then something is working!!

#21058 - 12/27/06 10:26 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Did you not read this? Please read this...it is so true. Please open your heart and consider this option if you decide to get another bird.

http://www.avianwelfare.org/action/flyers/adoptcockatoo.pdf

There are thousands of unwanted/abused/neglected birds out there. Please don't go out and "buy" a baby from a breeder and perpetuate the problem.

I am sorry if I have offended you in any way. I never meant to. My only concern is for the birds. I hope you can stay and learn and help us spread the word of rescue and adoption. Every voice matters.

Please try to talk to the owner. Try and get them to consider a rescue for Troy (is it Troy or Tory?). Please.....This is breaking my heart.

Have them come to this site!!

Is it the money they are concerned about? Did you have to pay for him? Are they wanting money for him? I am just trying to get the whole story. Thanks....

Don't go, stay and learn!!

#21059 - 12/28/06 06:31 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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#21060 - 12/28/06 06:59 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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what are you talking about?

I gave it back to the people who had her to begin with, not just to someone out of the blue... GROW UP or have another drink and reread what was posted..

They are the ones giving her to whoever NOT me I gave it back to the owners !!!!!!!!!!!

People like you who miss read stuff or make things sound worse that what really is makes it where no one wants to be apart of this site cause NO ONE is as mighty as YOU!!!!!!!!! CUSS all you want, what you dish out will one day bite you in the a$$!!

I am going to delete my account and will NOT tell people or be apart of a site because of people like you and all you want to do is bash people for something they are not in any way doing...

#21061 - 12/28/06 07:07 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Jim, thats rather harsh isn't it? Lets try to be productive and helpful!

Did the owners come and get Troy (Tory?) tonight? I just feel so bad for this bird. I know it is no fault of yours.

Please don't let our passion push you away. Please keep us posted.

Kim

#21062 - 12/28/06 07:34 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Please tell the owners about the professional rescues here in ca. I am off work for two weeks. i have gas money. I will transport Troy to a reputiable rescue and get him behavioral trainging. He be placed in a good foster home until a great permenat home can be located. We can keep everyone informed of the process. Please don't let another tragety happen. Please ask them to look at the various rescues online.


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#21063 - 12/28/06 05:30 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Teresa - You say, “ people on this site think they are mightier than others…and that is why no one wants to come on this site…”
I do not consider myself mightier or better or smarter than other people that do not want to be a part of this site. I do consider that perhaps because of this site I have invested a little more time in learning the truth about Cockatoos. The truth I have found is that they should not be owned by ANYONE. They are wild animals and therefore their needs are to difficult to be met in the average home by the average family. And what happens, is people like yourself, do not even put in enough time to find out what their needs are, and then people, like myself who do find out, discover that I can never meet the needs of a parrot in my living room. My bird, as Blanka, is seemingly happy. She doesn’t bite much anymore, her screeching is very normal. She doesn’t pluck. She is loving and very affectionate. So, one would think she is happy. I say most times she is not. Her behaviors and lack of bad behaviors make MY life easier. It does not indicate necessarily that her life is good. I came to these conclusions after finding this site. I studied this site. This site led me to other resources that I studied. This site helped me form relationships with other bird owners that had reached the same conclusions as I. This site led me to organizations and professionals that have dedicated their lives to parrots. BUT, I had to persue the information. When I acquired my Cockatoo, and began researching how to live with her, it was IMPOSSIBLE to separate what was required for life with her and the wild genus of her species. Then it was impossible to separate the horror of what the economic trade of the genus of her species was producing. Then I realized that I had become part of those HORRORS by purchasing a Cockatoo. Luckily, I did not become offended or angry or take it personally when people on this site pointed that out to me. I had read the agenda. It was not a hidden agenda. They even asked that I read the agenda before anything else. In the beginning I didn’t completely understand all the reasoning behind the agenda. I did however trust that the agenda was not written out of personal frivolity and fun. There must be something to it, I thought.? But I just kept learning not knowing if I would agree or not. So happens now, that I agree with every fiber of my being. However, I did not take public issue with the agenda even before I had made my own personal conclusions. Thank goodness. I am a knowledgeable and seasoned animal activist and was a dog trainer. I should have been offended when people here said none of that mattered. That basically this would be different and I didn’t know anything! But, I didn’t get angry, because I began to realize they were 100% correct. My point being that not only do I not feel “mightier” but I am humbled. Humbled by the fact that this site and the people that contribute, do so out of their own discovery, compassion and humility at what they have learned. Humbled by the fact that I a smart, caring animal lover had contributed to mass torture and horror for parrots. I did this by the simple, publicly accepted act of purchasing one. Luckily instead of insulting this site or the people on it I didn’t act like a “dumb blonde who knows nothing” and I kept reading.

Now personally to you, I say, “shame on you”. People here offered you personal experience, help, they even offered at their own expense to come help you and your bird. Their words, in ALL their different personalities and styles extended to you… compassion. And you chose to quit reading. You are right this site probably isn’t for you. That’s a shame. And I don’t mean for the site. It is a difficult and complex conclusion to face but the buck stops here. Thank the Sweet Lord above.

#21064 - 12/28/06 07:49 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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I would like to welcome the new, well-thought out lynn. Happy New Year! and very well put. I also want to mention something from our conversation from the other day. People can't understand why we say ownership is next to impossible and probably immoral. So let's reframe it, shall we. If I was living in another country, let's say mexico and I went to a pet store and saw they were selling baby, hand fed, sweet american bald eagles, I would be soooo delighted. I have always wanted to own a bald eagle you know. So the pet store assures me that the make the best pets. are good with kids. and the few weeks left on this four month olds hand feeding would be easy and a good way to bond with my new baby. How are each of you reacting right now. check you stomacks. tied in knots!? They should be. We in america protect our wild species and rightly so. I work with fish and game as a wild life rescuer. I have handled baby and mature eagles, hawks, crows etc. Babys are quiet and gentle. We always remind each other those talons and beaks can do destruction in seconds even with out the baby meaning to. And forget the adults. Usually takes two to manipulate even the sickest ones that come in. So why do americans feel we can purchase large, dangerous, complicated birds from other countries. Because it has been an acceptable practice for already too long. But here we are. trying to make the best of a horrible situation that we already find ourselves in. And as lynn said, once here. we all try to educate ourselves and others to do the best by the birds that are here. and more importantly, to stop the process. to stop the madness that prepetuates the torture and suffering for longer in one birds life than most of us will see in our shorter life spans. For all who read this now and in the future. Please, Please. don't buy. don't breed. don't sell. adoption and rescue are the only wise and humane practice a just human race can offer all of these noble birds.


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#21065 - 12/28/06 11:02 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Kim,

Tory is back with the owners they came last night, I guess there is someone who is interested but I dont know who it is that she has found..

So the whole TORY THING IS OVER!!!!!!!!

#21066 - 12/28/06 11:37 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Well Teresa if you think that there is still anything else you can learn or teach regarding Blanka.....would love you to be a part of. Of course you have to remember this sites agenda and that you are 'speaking' with people from all walks of life from all over the world...and take things with a grain of salt.
And when I say, remember the agenda, I don't mean to say that you have to agree or conform...but you should always be aware that some things will illicit a strong response??? Can ya dig it?

#21067 - 12/28/06 11:40 PM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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of course I can but I wont be called a C*nt if you know what I mean smile ~ That just really pissed me off as I am sure it would of anyone else. Exp since you dont know the person in person lol you all get it I am sure...

How in the world do you send someone a private mess on here?

#21068 - 12/29/06 12:12 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Well that depends....do you want to send me a private message telling me how wonderful I am???
And of course the bad word of one person was not appropriate. But I will say to you that person is actually a old crotchety guy................that is actually one of the sweetest guys with one of the biggest hearts that you would ever want to meet!!! I consider some of his advice to be the best I can get......course I don't think he ever called me that word (he might have?) but WE ALL HAVE OUR BAD DAYS! <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> If you were around more you would have probably realized this.?
All joking aside, there is a chat room feature that you can utilize. You should go ahead and register as I just found out it can take up to 24 hrs. for your password to be delivered. How does that sound?

#21069 - 12/29/06 12:22 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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LOL naw thougth I would just brag about myself lol Naw was going to to KIM smile but now I would have to send ya one as well lol

I will check it out...

And where do I go to do that? Chat that is lol

#21070 - 12/29/06 12:36 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Darn it - I always tell Kim.....one day I will be as popular as you!!! LOL Go to the bottom of the page it will say chat room go to the register form (scroll down, I tell you this b/c I was a dumb blonde that didn't!!!!LOL) register and then a password will be sent to your email addy. BTW, I can say anything I want to about "Miss Kim ....organized fancy pants" as I lovingly call her. Because she is moving into a new house tonight and won't see any of this until tommorrow at best!!!! So....anyone wanna bash Kim!!!! <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> Just kidding, Teresa, Kim as ithe1 is a wonderful and dedicated person......damn her!!! <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />

#21071 - 12/29/06 12:39 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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LOL Duh I have seen that before.... Ok I will get it done in a min I have a kid falling asleep in my arms right now smile

#21072 - 12/29/06 01:31 AM Re: Hello from Nevada  
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Lynn I thought you said it would take 24 hrs lol I already got it smile so see ya in chat sometime...

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