#198107 - 04/09/09 06:36 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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They have their own agenda... PETA: http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/258PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008 Hypocritical Animal Rights Group’s 2008 Disclosures Bring Pet Death Toll To 21,339 WASHINGTON DC – Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
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#198115 - 04/09/09 02:28 PM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I agree Alex. Fanatics always make me nervous. Who are they to decide who lives and dies? Bit of a God complex, I would say.
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#200478 - 05/08/09 12:31 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I have first hand knowledge of the 'bad' side of PETA and although I cannot give specifics, I can tell you that a lot of what they purport to be true is not and that bald-faced lies are stated as truth. I do not trust that organization at all.
Any org that needs to lie to survive, shouldn't.
Karen, Lucy (U2), BooBoo (CAG),Pina (BCC),Willie (Cockatiel), Melody, Sonata, Penny & Dory(dogs)
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#203266 - 06/30/09 06:27 PM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I'm only posting on here since I saw that one link - PETA: http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/258I'm no fan of PETA. I hate them as much as the next valid Animal Rights activist does. The saddest part is, they do occasionally have some good points to make. Had they not filmed and just rescued the bird, everyone would think, "Awww, how nice!" instead of having these grotesque images etched in their souls. It might be sensationalism, but it works. I mean, I owe the fact that I'm vegan due to PETA's persistent messages similar to this. But again, I do not like PETA. What I like less than PETA is that Web site I mentioned earlier. I understand people's knee-jerk reaction to hating PETA and wanting to believe anything negative about them they can, but check your sources first. That Web site is run by a food industry funded organization; the ones who have the most to lose if PETA wins people over. Their donors include such members as Taco Bell and other fast food chains and factory farming businesses - none of whom PETA has ever said anything good about. So we may dislike PETA but Consumerfreedom.com is 10 times worse in their scale of violence and abuse to animals.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"
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#203300 - 07/01/09 03:59 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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Consumer Freedom is absolutely biased, but you can look at Peta's records on the government's website.. so they aren't exaggerating. Also, attacking consumerfreedom instead of their argument is called an ad hominem attack and is a logical fallacy.
If you want to help animals, support the animal welfare movement. Animal rights have a hard-line, impossible stance that will only hurt people and animals in the long run. I'm sorry, but there is no way everyone in the world is going to become vegan (although you are quite welcome to do so yourself, as long as you realize it's not actively changing much of anything). Even if these groups managed to outlaw meat, do you really think that's going to stop people? People are going to be smuggling cows and keeping them in their basements (or what have you) and at that point, all of those regulations and good care standards go out the window and the animals suffer much more than before.
There are still bad farms and abusive practices, but I feel they are the minority and groups like Peta love to use them to represent the majority, which is completely unfair. The abusive people are bad definitely, but we shouldn't paint everyone with a broad brush. Animal welfare tries to focusing on getting rid of the bad places and bettering the care these animals receive. I've noticed a lot of people don't know the difference, so they are putting their lot in with the wrong people.
I hope an unbiased, objective documentary comes to light about parrots. Shockumentaries may fool some people for a while, but people have brains and can figure things out. I think the truth about companion parrots is enough to get people to see the light though, so there is no reason to manipulate anyone. The breeders always seem to cry bloody murder when a one-sided report comes out, I think they'd have a harder time with one that covers both sides.
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