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#199041 - 04/19/09 06:26 PM Why a Cockatoo?  
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I was just wondering what attracts others to Cockatoos? Is it a general interest in birds? It is there appearance? Behavior? I know many of you have multiple birds and different species.

Strangly enough, as an impressionable youth my favorite TV show was "Baretta" and I fell in love with Fred, that "old rummy"... he was a very well trained bird and since ownership of a Cockatoo wasn't a reality I started with a parakeet and eventually stepped up to cockatiels.

I am sorry to say that back in the 1980s I made the mistake many people make and bought a MSC from a local pet store without really learning enough about them and made all the usual mistakes..."Fred" ultimately was sold to a breeder as I could not control him...but knowing now, what I did not know then, it was very much my own fault...I am still guilty about giving up on him...

I wanted another for decades but must admit I was a little afraid to try again...I almost adopted an M2...although I absolutely adore them and thnk they are magnificent, I do not think I could have handled him...then one day there was an ad in the local paper for someone who needed to sell a MSC and Buddy came into my life...

So...why a Cockatoo?

#199042 - 04/19/09 06:40 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: GregM]  
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For me it was a pity purchase and an impulsive one at that...

Hubby and I were making a trip to the pet store to pick up some stuff for our cockatiel Kiki.Of course I had pondered having a larger species of parrot but never really put any thought into it really. I saw some kids poking straws into a cage with this scared white bird in there. The bird was scared and flailing around the cage. I could not contain myself.I rushed over and gave the kids heck for doing it and the staff came over to see what was wrong. I asked the staff about the bird in question and the answer I got was "You don't want that bird.That bird is a mess.It is going back to the breeder because it is no good". Well I stuck my finger in the cage anyway. This poor pathetic cockatoo came rushing over put his foot on my finger and licked my finger for a long time. That was it. Next thing I knew I was calling the manager over and begging to buy this bird at a discount price because it was going back anyway. She was amazed I could even touch him.

Knowing nothing about birds I did everything wrong. He was not quite 3 months old when I bought him as a force weaned baby chick. He was sitting in my home for months begging for hand feedings and I had no idea. I thought he just wanted attention. He turned very phobic and was nearly a year old when I got the help of an Avian Vet and this board. What life savers. It took a couple of years but Gabby did get allot better with his phobic beahviors. I was lucky he never got scared of me in the whole time. It was a connection him and I made right from day one and it never changed.

Cockatoo's hold a special place in my heart. I see the torment they live in captivity and it is so sad.Many of them end up abused and neglected because people just don't understand them.


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#199046 - 04/19/09 07:02 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Janny]  
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I impulse purchased my first cockatoo - my M2, Echo. My beloved Quaker had passed away a few weeks earlier, and I went to the store I had gotten her to get another. When I walked in the door, there was Echo. I picked her up and she didn't leave my arms until we were home.
Two days later at her new-bird visit, my AV asked me if I realized what I had done. Chosen one, if not the most difficult of all parrots to live with. He explained to me the effects that captivity has on these birds and how many behavior problems can arise, from well-meaning, but uneducated caregivers. I made a vow that I was going to honor the commitment I had made the day I brought Echo home (come hell or high water). I followed my AV's advice and had a behavior consultant come into my home for 4 visits, purchased some books he recommended, hit the internet and found Mytoos.

Originally Posted By: Janny
Cockatoo's hold a special place in my heart. I see the torment they live in captivity and it is so sad.Many of them end up abused and neglected because people just don't understand them.


DITTO that!!


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#199053 - 04/19/09 08:16 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: EchosMom]  
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I had budgies and cockatiels in the past. After my marriage broke down I wanted companionship, but wasn't interested in getting involved in a "relationship" again. I considered a dog, but I thought a dog would be much more work than a bird. Obviously, I knew nothing about large parrots. I didn't know about the issues regarding pet stores, breeders, and the bird trade industry, or I never would have gone to a breeder, but that's exactly what I did. I went with the intention of purchasing an African Grey. After talking with the breeder for about an hour he first brought me an umbrella cockatoo, just to show me, and placed him on my lap.

I also watched Baretta regularly, and Fred was my favourite character.

He warned me not to start stroking the bird right away to avoid being bitten, but I'm not one to listen. I stroked the head and neck and didn't get bitten. The U2 looked at me with what seemed to be interest but uncertainty. He was only 4 months old, and his feathers were in very rough shape. (I was told he was 4 months old, but the numbers on his leg band could indicate that he was 9 years old at the time) I wondered if he was being picked on by other birds or otherwise mistreated.

I bought him, found this board a short time later, and have been learning ever since.

I believe this board has literally been a lifesaver for Rocco, because I was absolutely clueless when I brought him home. It was here that I learned how to stop bleeding with cornstarch, how to interpret much of Rocco's body language and behaviour, how to feed him, entertain him, and many other things.

This board is the single best one-stop-shop for cockatoo information and assistance. If it's not here, someone can point you in the right direction.

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#199067 - 04/20/09 12:33 AM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Walter]  
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Hi GregM thats a good question but I honestly don't know what attracts me to Toos still haven't figured it out !!!!
I have 11 . I also started with 1 a U2 but I didn't know much about Toos. Then through the vet I met a lady who gave lots of advice on toys etc and she also told me to read Pet Bird Report and so I did and then I subscribed to it. Then I found this website way back in 2002.

#199077 - 04/20/09 03:25 AM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: whitewings56]  
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I pity purchased my first M2 Charley. I went into a pet store to buy a new cage for my Nandy Conure I had just rescued. I saw this magnificant big white bird and was drawn to him. I went to talk to him and saw that he was living in filth. His food and water dishes sat on the bottom of the cage and were nasty with poop and slime. Charley looked at me and begged me to touch him. I put my finger in the cage and he grabbed it and put it in his mouth. Dumb me, I did not have any fear. I would NEVER put my finger in his mouth today!! I took 3 weeks to think it over. I could not justify leaving him there. He had been there a year and had only been out of the cage for a few times.
After we got him home and started our day to day living, I realized I did not know what I had gotten myself into. After a couple of months I came across My Toos and I must say, this site has probably saved Charley`s life. I have learned all I know about Cockatoos from the wonderful people here. God Bless you all.
The reason I chose a Cocckatoo? I did not chose Charley, he chose me. Getting a Cockatoo was the last thing on my mind when I went into that store. I could not in good conscious leave him there.
I pity purcahsed Sydnee also from a newspaper add.She came from a woman who bought her from a breeder that was going out of business. She has a lot of baggage, but she is one sweet little girl. In a month she will have been here 3 years. Thank goodness I have not come across any more Cockatoos needing a home, LOL
I made a comittment to these 2 Cockatoos. I will honor that comittment no matter how hard it gets.
Sharon


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#199085 - 04/20/09 05:19 AM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Ladyhutch]  
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I too pity-purchased and impulsively purchased Chewy from a bird store. My reasoning back then was my caregiver wanted it and she couldn't afford it. Of course I didn't buy him for her, I bought him for me.
I could have left him there, and I should have. I dind't really want, or need another bird. But now......man I can't imagine life without him. He goes most places with me.


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#199089 - 04/20/09 01:34 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Chewy]  
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"This board is the single best one-stop-shop for cockatoo information and assistance. If it's not here, someone can point you in the right direction."

I second that sentiment...I feel empowered by having such a resource avaiable to me and much more comfortable facing Too related issues.

And while I love every "pity purchase" story with a happy endning it just makes me sad that there are probably so many others still suffering...I go into a local pet store for fish food and some bird supplys and there is a MSC there that has been there for a while...fairly well cared for but exhibiting all the signs of being in a pet store too long..went home with someone and then was back shortly afterwards...the old "my daughter is allergic" story...Tritan is actuall a sweetheart and one of the friendliest "pet shop" birds I have ever met...everytime I go in to buy Buddy a new toy I buy one for her and hang it in her enclosure...the kids in the store think I am mad...the managment said they are going to move her to another store soon as they don't want her getting to attached to anyone...so sad...I feel so bad for her and inquired if they would consider dropping the price to no avail...

I am going to look at Ophelia today...she is the subject of the post that brought me here under behavioral section...she has already been in 3 homes, I am told she is a plucker and a screamer and I fear this may be her last chance at a happy home...I was concerned with the potential negative impact she may have on Buddy, but from what I have read here they both may actually benefit from contact with another bird...

But is pity enough? They are an enourmous amount of work and I really do not desire multiple Toos...it seems as though everyone here finds the strength to care for them in pity...and as for the forum member in Italy with 11...Amen, peasano : )

#199090 - 04/20/09 01:38 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Chewy]  
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This topic has given me so much hope. So many of you have gotten your toos without having any idea what you were getting into. Cleo was brought into my business as an adoptee for a friend. For some reason she instantly bonded to me - me, who had never even been close to any kind of bird. My friend asked me if I would like to have Cleo since she obviously loved me. So the adventure began and I think I have made every mistake possible. After 10 montths, things are beginning to improve a bit although there are still many problems and I swing back and forth between fear and discouragement. MyToos has definitely saved Cleo and I; there are not enough words to express my gratitude.


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#199092 - 04/20/09 02:06 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: GregM]  
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Pity purchasing is NOT something we advocate. Members have related their experiences in the past. If one buys a bird from a store or breeder, they are just part of the problem. If you really want to help cockatoos, stay out of stores. Visit a rescue.

http://www.mytoos.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=126292#Post126292

#199100 - 04/20/09 03:52 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Charlie]  
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Originally Posted By: Charlie
If you really want to help cockatoos, stay out of stores. Visit a rescue.


If I went to a rescue I would leave with 10 birds : (

And I agree with Cleo's mom...this site is an enouromous help to those who really do want to understand how to cohabit with their Too...before I found it I found Sam Foster's articles very insightful...

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#199103 - 04/20/09 04:43 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: GregM]  
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Greg I deleted the link to the article. The site you found it on also has breeder information. We don't post any links with breeders or that are supported by breeders.
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#199104 - 04/20/09 04:55 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: BE2Cassie]  
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I love cockatoos causwe they are soooo intelligent

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#199105 - 04/20/09 05:13 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: GregM]  
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Cockatoos have a way of looking into your eyes, and touching your very soul. I grew up with many birds, my parents adopted every animal that came their way and many were parrots. While I loved them all, there was always a special place in my heart for the Too. After finding this site, my love and concern for them only grew stronger. We only have the one, but Ozzy is like our child. Everyday is scheduled around his care and happiness. To me they are angels from heaven, sent to test human kind. Sadly the world is failing them.

Anyone who can look into these wonderful creatures eyes and not feel the love they possess, just has no soul.

Why the Too........look into their eyes and you will find the answer.


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#199119 - 04/20/09 09:15 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: FeatheredAngels]  
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Originally Posted By: FeatheredAngels
Why the Too........look into their eyes and you will find the answer.


Ahh, yes...Buddy has sweet eyes...I told him he was too pretty to be a boy...

#199132 - 04/20/09 10:16 PM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: GregM]  
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I dont think my birds were "pity purchases" but more selfish purchases. I mean how cool would it be too have a bird that talked???? HA! Although I grew up around birds at a distance (lived in same house, but never had more interest than an occasional head scratch or chat why passing by) I never ever thought about owning one myself... till ONE DAY with absolutely no premeditated thought at all.. We were at a Trade Days type place.. they had birds. I held a few but didnt make a connnection with any.. My boyfriend took their card to their store. He asked if i wanted to go by and thought.. hey, why not? Went to the store and left with a TAG on layaway.. over the next 2 months we visited regulary. During the last couple visits they had a very sweeet U2 that i had began holding.. I wanted him and boyfriend bought him. HOW MUCH MORE SELFISH can one person get? I didnt even have the TAG home yet and was on the bird #2. Once Casper the U2 was home.. I then decided to do some reaserch and found MyToos.. and felt like a complete idiot. No, I dont think idiot covers it.. i felt worse than that. I didnt look into it.. i didnt even think about adopting.. i had no business getting a bird to begin with and here my lovely boyfiend just bought me $2500 worth of birds and I had to tell him what a horrible thing we just did. Thankfully.. he understood!! Now, we are committed to seeing this through and giving them the best life possible and will never ever recommend buying a bird to anyone! And when accused of being a hipocrit.. i say yes i am.

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Pity purchases make you feel good but the money that changes hands just ensures that another bird will suffer in it's place. Bird stores and breeders lie, they have to to stay in business. The will do anything in their power to "convince" you that the bird loves you like no one else. They will lie about it's age. They will lie about it's health and whether it was seen by a vet. They will lie about weaning. These are business people, not bird lovers! They may "like" birds but only because of what they can get out of them.

When you give them the money, they will beg, borrow, steal or buy another "cheap" bird to lie with. When you give them the money, you are enabling them and perpetuating the problem. All they want is a credit card, not a good home for any bird. Some cockatoos are going to suffer, for sure! Why make it more?

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#199144 - 04/21/09 12:08 AM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Charlie]  
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Good points Charlie and I guess I should have made myself clear on that fact that a pity purchase is not the way to go. It is a pity puchase because you feel so sorry for that bird but believe me...when I bought Gabby from that pet store...he wasn't the last to suffer in there. There has been many only I learned my lesson.There are many other birds out there in rescues needing help and homes and it is NOT lining the pocket of a breeder or pet store supplying the pet trade. Rescue is by far the way to go.


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#199150 - 04/21/09 12:25 AM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Janny]  
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When you pity purchase one bird it is replaced by two!


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#199205 - 04/21/09 06:13 AM Re: Why a Cockatoo? [Re: Donnalee]  
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I am pleased to say that Charley was never replaced with another Cockatoo. They did sell other birds though. They have since closed down. The economy in a college town is very low right now. YES!
Sydnee was purchased by a woman who knew nothing about birds at all. She had her a month and put her up for sale in the want ads. We felt we had to buy her to keep her out of the hands of someone else who did not knw squat about the needs of a Cockatoo. Believe me, she learned her lesson, she stated she would never ever own another large bird.
Today, I would never purchase a bird. I would visit a rescue and let my new companion choose me.
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