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#196870 - 03/26/09 06:57 PM CBS News on Rescues  
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This just came in with some correspondence from Mira Tweti:

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CBS News will be airing two segments on the unwanted parrot crisis. The airdate isn't set yet but the segments, to air on CBS Evening News and Sunday Morning shows have been months in the works.

I pitched the idea to correspondent Bill Whitaker who was very receptive. Garuda Aviary, MAARS,Santa Barbara Bird Sanctuary, Parrots First and I were all filmed for the piece.

It'll be the first national news story to break the issue of parrots as challenging pets and the crisis of unwanted birds filling rescues.

As soon as an airdate is set I'll send an email blast!

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This is wonderful news! Charlie may I have permission to cross post this over at FTB?

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By all means, Mona! Thank you. cool

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I just added it to your original post over there as an update, thanks so much :-)

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Charlie, Are we permitted to post it on other parrot "non-breedig" boards also? Thanks.

I have one in mind.

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Yes, Denise, that is fine. Thank you.

#196885 - 03/26/09 08:21 PM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Charlie]  
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I can't wait to watch!!


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#196898 - 03/26/09 11:03 PM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: EchosMom]  
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This is geat news! I can't wait to hear what dates it will air!


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#196901 - 03/27/09 12:32 AM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: ILuvMyBE2]  
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Best news I've heard in a while. Can't wait to see it. Sharon

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This is wonderful! So much of this problem is caused because people are totally ignorant (like I was)


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#196940 - 03/27/09 02:18 PM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Cleo's Mom]  
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Charlie, this is wonderful. Let us know. I want to post to all my friends who have no clue about parrots and always thought I was some kind of nut. GREAT

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Wow I am excited....can't wait to hear when.I just hope my t.v. is repaired when it airs. crazy


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I will immediately post any further information as I get it. That will definitely be something I want to tape and pass around!

#196952 - 03/27/09 07:43 PM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Charlie]  
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Thanks Charlie that would be awsome.I would like to record it too.


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#196986 - 03/28/09 12:33 AM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Janny]  
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Please make sure and let us know when they air. I will want to record as well.

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I can't wait to see that on national news! It's about time! Many thanks to Mira for all her hard work and perseverance!!

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We just want to add our thanks and encouragement! Bravo!!!


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Maybe this can be posted on craigslist in different cities in the pet area? For "people interested in getting parrots!"


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I don't know if this is it, but CBS news just did an intro that they are doing a segment of people and why they love their parrots. It is going to be on shortly.


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From Mira Tweti:

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CBS EVENING NEWS WITH KATIE COURIC IS AIRING SEGMENT ON PARROT CRISIS TONIGHT - TUNE IN!

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml


HI ALL -

I JUST GOT WORD THAT BILL WHITAKER'S PIECE ON THE PARROT CRISIS I PITCHED WAY BACK WHEN AND WAS INTERVIEWED FOR ALONG WITH RESCUERS AND OTHERS, IS AIRING TONIGHT ON CBS EVENING NEWS ! IT WILL BE THE LAST SEGMENT AND THE FIRST NATIONAL NETWORK BREAK ON THIS CRISIS!

PLEASE TUNE IN AND WRITE IN TO CBS NEWS TO LET THEM WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF IT! IT'S EASY TO EMAIL THEM JUST GO TO THEIR SITE AND CLICK "CONTACT" AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. A POPUP WINDOW WILL APEAR.

NOTE: MIDWEST AVIAN ADOPTION AND RESCUE SERVICES IN MINNESOTA WAS INTERVIEWED BUT THEIRS AND OTHER INTERVIEWS DONE ARE BEING HELD FOR A SECOND PIECE TO AIR ON CBS SUNDAY MORNING. THE AIRDATE HAS NOT BEEN SKEDDED FOR THAT YET.

FYI, A THOROUGH NEWSLETTER IS STILL IN THE WORKS AND SHOULD BE SENT IN THE NEXT DAY - IF YOU MISS THE CBS NEWS BREAK, A LINK WILL BE INCLUDED TO VIEW IT ONLINE AND YOU CAN FIND IT AT THEIR SITE AFTER IT AIRS TONIGHT.


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I just caught the last two minutes of the broadcast! It was great, and just what was needed to bring this problem to the average American. Way to go, Mira! I'm going to replay it online later to see the full story.

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#200417 - 05/07/09 01:01 AM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: EchosMom]  
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Thanks EM! You are amazing. I thought the spot was good, and certainly a step in the right direction. I will email CBS and tell them.


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I enjoyed the spot. I'll add my email to CBS.

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Awsome...I will be forwarding this link to everyone I know.


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#200429 - 05/07/09 03:59 AM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Janny]  
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Just saw the piece. Unfortunately, Charley and Sydnee were both in display mode and we did not get to really hear it. I will watch it after the Darlings are in bed. From what I did hear, it seemed like a well done piece.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Here is a link to the article and video. There is a comment section at the end plus an e-mail option, please use them!

The People and Parrots Paradox

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thanks charlie i was working and didnt get to see it.
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Just watched it and can't wait to see Sundays. Take the time to read the comments. Sally Blanchard commented and it surprised me. Shed a new light on her motives and love of parrots $$$$$
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One thing for sure, this piece has definitely gotten the attention of the breeding community (Blanchard included)! They are rising to the occasion and immediately start throwing out the AR comments.

I do find the euthanization/HSUS position disturbing. Hopefully HSUS will be given the opportunity to clarify their position in the next segment, which I hear is going to be on Saturday.


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Wow some people really have no idea do they. They are stuck in the thinking it isn't the breeder's fault but rescues?!?!?! what is that?!?!?! Lower their standards and lower the adoption fee.OMG!


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Can we make this a sticky so it doesn't move out of eyesight?

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Good idea Bev!


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Wow the comments on there are idiotic. A lot of these people have parrots too, are they not effected at all by living with them?

Anyway, The HSUS' stance makes sense to me. They are an animal rights group and AR's believe that people interacting with animals in any way is wrong. This includes for food, clothing, medicine (testing), pets, etc.

The problem with the HSUS is they play it a lot safer than Peta, thus they have gained a lot of political power and make a LOT of money. People don't realize they have the same crazy agenda. Here's an article on some of that: http://peta-sucks.com/smf/index.php?topic=37197.0 (I have many more of these too)

I'm sure any response we'll get from them will be a boiler plate, ass-covering statement like they usually give out. It'll be something like "Oh the birds we get are so abused, we have to put them down". Peta gave a similar statement when people found their public euthanization records.

What annoys me the most about some of those comments are the ones accusing Mira and such as being ARA's. Wanting to curb the parrot overpopulation problem and get proper homes for them is HARDLY an AR stance. AR stance would be: No breeding, euthanize the ones we have now and never touch them again (which includes wild population control the WWF does and any re-introduction programs, AR's slam both constantly).

PS: I'm not trying to start any fights with ARs here. I don't know if there are any here.. These are just my personal views on the subject. Not trying to slam anyone personally here..

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Wow...could NOT believe some of the comments. I just left my own. I was very disappointed in Sally Blanchard's comment.

I am just very thankful that I am not a bird living in the home of some of those people who commented. Unbelievable.

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I agree Jacque. Sally Blanchard (willingly or not) misunderstood the message of the video. I posted this video on all of my groups and SURPRISE! the only negative drama it created was within my Rescue Group. I cannot believe the way people react to things...I guess that the 'perception is reality' truism really is...

Cidsa-that really got me, too, that they were calling Mira out as such. Anyone in touch with what is really going on really knows better. As Charlie often comments, though, the ignorance is sometimes overwhelming.

I was so naive that I didn't know what AR was until this controversy. I can't believe the disparity of beliefs. Wow!

BECassie- I saw your post on there - Good job!

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I honesty was alarmed that some "Humane" society is saying that unwanted birds be euthanized. That's revolting. I know that there are parrots out there in bad situations and that many rescues are full. But to be honest, the humane society here does get birds (and about a hundred times more cats) but they don't euthanize them for lack of homes. Killing an unwanted bird is the lazy person's way out, unless the bird has a health problem that cannot be treated and causes the bird a great deal of pain.

There are people out there that can help with very difficult birds. I've helped re-train and re-home some pluckers and biters. I make no money from this.

People who want a parrot *need* to know about what high maintenance animals they are and should be encourage to adopt from a rescue. Personally, I always have the feeling that my pet tropical birds don't really "belong" in my house in Canada. However, the piece does make it sound like anyone who owns a parrot has a complete terror of an animal. Frankly, I adore my birds and none of them scream excessively, display any stereotypies, or pluck. I only very rarely get bitten. I have also never thought, "I can't take it another minute, " and I have a few large parrots. Plus, each can tolerate some "alone" time, though I think it helps that all can at least see and hear another bird at all times. My little guys are all paired up.

In the end, I think that it's difficult to address any issue in the short sound-bites that most media allow for even complicated topics. On the positive side, I do hope that this prevents unprepared people from taking on a parrot, and I'm sure it will. I sure hope no idiots go and have their bird executed from hearing this, though.

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While I agree, euthanasia is awful it may be more humane then warehousing unwanted birds in cages/prisons for years and years, especially the sick, really aggressive “difficult” birds that have a lower chance in finding a home that is suitable for them. I’m not sure that it’s easy for everyone to put an animal down but sometimes it might be needed.

All of the birds living with me mean everything to me but there are days that they drive me absolutely nuts and there are days when one of them is acting hormonal and I get bit and it hurts like hell and I do think to myself “what the hell have I gotten myself into? I must be insane for keeping parrots” but I also realize it’s not the birds fault. They are doing the best they can living in my house under very unnatural conditions andI’m not sure if I could do a better job than them if the roles were reversed.

It might be fair to say that a lot of people experience stress with trying to maintain a human life while living with birds. Birds are birds and they have very strong instinctual behaviors such as chewing and they can’t distinguish between an antique armoire and a pine block. Birds poop, a lot, they are messy, and require a hellava lot of attention and they don’t always necessarily like everyone living in the house, which can pose a HUGE problem. So stress kind of comes with the territory for most people living with birds.

I don’t have exact figures but I would say that most bird people on forums who want to help birds are very passionate, patient people who are determined to do what is right for the birds in their care and if we can get stressed think about how many people there are who just can’t deal with it. That is why I think this CBS/Mira Tweti segment was a good one for everyone to see.

ALL people won’t know if they are the kind of people that can stick it out and commit to proper care for the birds they bring home until they have done so and been through it or volunteered at rescues, zoos etc. and have witnessed firsthand what these birds are capable of doing and the amount of energy that is REQUIRED to, feed, clean and work with these guys.

I am just so glad that more in-depth information is being made public on a larger scale like this TV segment short or not. I also think there will be more to come thanks to a lot of hard working folks who keep busting their butts to get real information out there so the public can make real choices based on ALL of the information not just the desirable side to living with a parrot.

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Maybe, but that quote from the "humane" society makes it sound like one should just execute an unwanted parrot straight out without even trying to find it a home. I don't think people should be breeding large parrots, but I'm not going to be thrilled with a piece that gives no hope to owners of difficult birds and just notes that people with unwanted birds ought to kill them. The article would have been better without that terrible remark. Euthanizing a bird is an absolute last resort, not the first one.

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I understand why everyone is so passionate about the euthanization of parrots because they are unwanted. And ideally it would be a last resort. However, I think it is becoming painfully obvious that we are to the point that it is necessary. Rescues are full. What else are you going to do? I think the humane society's statement was unfortunate but necessary. People need to understand that there are so many unwanted birds out there that euthanization is the only alternative. The more adoptable ones will find homes and the needy ones will not and there will be no place to put them. Instead of jumping on the humane society, we need to focus on the cessation of the breeding of those "cute" birds. The video Charlie and Bev put together is a great start as is the segment on CBS. Maybe some birds will be saved with these efforts.


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Sorry but no way would I just execute my birds because a humane society says I should.

The HSUS rakes in millions of dollars per year and could open up a very nice parrot rescue and actually save birds. Instead they tell people to kill animals.

How many people here have taken in an unwanted bird? Would you really have preferred that the former owner just kill it? Six of my birds would be dead right now if their former owners would have listened to the Humane Society's advice. Mitri's owner looked far and wide to find him a good home and good on her. She did the right thing in a desperate situation and didn't just take him to the vet to be killed.

By the way, do not assume that I'm "just" jumping on the Humane Society. My whole life is devoted to the study of animals and I do a lot to promote adoption. However, I'm not going to tell people to kill animals and I am not going to blindly praise those that do. That's the antithesis of what I am about.


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I don't quite understand, because the video wouldn't work at my mom's house and headphones are too quiet...at the library. But I could never euthanize one of my birds just because I didn't want it anymore. Iw ould either find a excellent home for them, or I would keep it.


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Garnet, I have to believe the Humane Society would much prefer all animals are rehomed instead of euthanized. I also have to hope that they did not mean that we should just give up and run to the vet to have any animal put down. I believe that they meant they cannot do anything for them, because they have run out of options. I understand that more rescues sounds like a great answer, but is it really? How many rescues do we need? How can we build enough quality rescues to be sure our birds are allowed to live out their lives? The cost is huge, and the manpower... I guess I just choose to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Oh, and I do believe that you love the animals and birds very very much. And I do understand how heart wrenching the subject of euthanasia is. I also believe that your birds are quite fortunate to have found you. You and people like you are not common. I took in an unwanted bird who is very special. I am not sure yet if I even qualify as a person with the dedication to commit to this over the long run and I love animals and deeply love my cockatoo!


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#200808 - 05/13/09 02:43 AM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: ILuvMyBE2]  
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I think it's important to remember (no disrespect to Mira) that the comment on HSUS' position was not from HSUS directly and I suspect somewhat taken out of context. I really, really hope that the next segment expounds on this further.


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I think most people would be surprised at the level of euthanasia being conducted on parrots today. It is happening.

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I agree Charlie, and it sickens me. It's already becoming reality and the breeders just keep pumping more chicks into the over-saturated market.

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#200821 - 05/13/09 04:13 AM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Charlie]  
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Statement on Euthanasia



The euthanasia of animals has been acknowledged by most animal protection organizations, including The HSUS, as an appropriate and humane means of ending the suffering of an animal in physical distress. It is also used widely to end the lives of animals who have severe behavioral problems, including aggression, and cannot be adopted into an appropriate new home because they pose a threat to the health and safety of people or other animals.

The use of euthanasia to end the lives of healthy, adoptable animals is more controversial. The practice is still conducted in many parts of the United States for dogs and cats because open-admission shelters and animal control agencies do not turn away animals and do not have sufficient space to house all of the animals who need shelter. These public and private facilities face the lose-lose choice of euthanizing healthy animals or turning them away. The HSUS advocates the use of a wide range of tools—including training and education of the pet-keeping public to reduce the frequency of animal relinquishment, public and private spay and neuter programs to slow the birth rate for animals, active promotion of adoptions of shelter animals, and aggressive policies to discourage excessive breeding of animals, especially from puppy mills—to create a social environment where the number of people seeking to adopt animals is roughly equivalent to the number of homeless animals.

The HSUS is committed to pursuing a continuing program of investigation, study, and training related to acceptable euthanasia methods. We recommend for use only those methods that cause a rapid loss of consciousness and that cause minimal pain, distress, and suffering in the animal. We oppose any euthanasia methods or techniques that do not meet these humane principles


** The HSUS has avoided mentioning parrots altogether... I would be surprised if their view on euthanasia of parrots were any different from cats & dogs.

#200838 - 05/13/09 04:16 PM Re: CBS News on Rescues [Re: Liisa B]  
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** The HSUS has avoided mentioning parrots altogether... I would be surprised if their view on euthanasia of parrots were any different from cats & dogs.


I can assure you that it is not. The American public has become acclimated, and to some extent, jaded to the killing of millions of dogs and cats each year and accepts (or is that ignores?) it as long as it is done behind closed doors and out of sight. Not so with parrots, I believe, so they keep a pretty low profile on that subject in order to avoid the public backlash.

Personally, I believe that to some extent both HSUS and the ASPCA have lost focus on their core mission of saving lives and serving animal welfare to become animal control organizations instead. As such, they seem to have adopted the philosophy of government-funded animal control agencies to "adopt a few and kill the rest". I don't know. Maybe that's necessary with the overwhelming abundance of unwanted cats and dogs. Not so with parrots though. Not yet anyway. I don't see animal control killing the birds, but I don't see them proactively seeking homes for them eather or even preparing to care for them until a home can be found. That certainly doesn't bode well for the future of any birds that might come into their care. For example...

I was recently contacted by our local Animal Services Department to take in a budgie that had been recaptured from the wild. First time in 8 years that they have called on us so I was looking forward to seeing what kind of provisions they had to care for birds. Upon arrival, I was led to a utility closet where I found the bird in a filthy carrier, covered with a dirty work towel and surrounded by utility sinks, mops and mop buckets that reeked of cleaning solutions. Not a bird cage in sight. What does that say about their preparations to handle the bird over-population problem? They told me that the budgie was "on it's last day", so what do you suppose their solution to it's presense was? Ok, yes, they called and I hope they continue to do so. However, they uses our services but do not support us in any way, so how long can we continue to support them?

And then there is the local humane society the emailed me earlier this week. First time I have ever heard from them as well. They weren't calling about a bird though. They were calling about 2 cages that someone had donated. However, instead of using the cages to expand and improve their own ability to care for unwanted birds(there is not a cage in the place), they put them up for sale in their thrift shop. One might say that they depend on us to handle the birds, but they didn't call to donate the cages. They contacted us to buy them. What does that say about their preparations to handle an influx of unwanted birds or even their acknowledgement that there is such a need?

My point is that we have not yet reached the point in the bird world where euthansia is technically necessary on the wholesale scale that it perhaps is with cats and dogs. However, it may be the only option they have if they are as totally unprepared for and undedicated to the bird over-population problem as our local resources are. Particularily if there is no local avian welfare organization. Both of these organizations say that they have no need to prepare for unwanted birds because they see so few. Is that because no one wants to turn their bird over to an organization where there is a high probability that it will be put to death? If people are not relinquishing their unwanted birds to such organizations, then what are they doing with them? Or, is bird over-population a myth as so many of these organizations believe?

Yes, if euthansia of unwanted birds is to be avoided, it appears to me that we do need more rescues and sanctuaries dedicated to the avian species but it is not going to happen without the grassroots support of the avian community in particular and the public in general. By grassroots, I mean putting our money where our mouth is. For example, there has been much discussion of the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary lately. They are, no doubt, a model organization and everyone seems to agree that their local rescues should be just like BFAS. I could not agree more. Every rescue/sanctuary should have $34,000,000 a year in public-support donations. Every rescue/sanctuary should have $26,000,000 in surplus cash sitting in the bank. Every rescue/sanctuary should own 3000 acres of land and have another 30,000 under lease from the government on which to expand and care for more unwanted animals. Every rescue/sanctuary should have 1 full time employee for every 5 animals in their care. Every rescue/sanctuary should have one full-time professional administrator for every 250 animals in their care. Every rescue/sanctuary should have hundreds of volunteers to help with the animals care and keep the organization "on target and on their toes". Every rescue/sanctuary should have a world renowned, high-dollar Los Angles PR firm to handle their fund raising, keep their cause in front of the cameras, their names in the press, and on peoples minds. Mostly, every rescue/sanctuary should have the kind of support from the public and the animal welfare community that has made BFAS it is today. It would take no less to have a "Best Friends" in every state in the union, but it would certainly go a long way in insuring that birds never see the wholesale killings common with unwanted cats and dogs today.

Ok, that's my 2-cents worth and I'll get off my soapbox now. Getting back on topic, for those who have not read Nathan Winograd's book, Redemption, it provides a very interesting perspective on the euthansia policies and practices of HSUS and the ASPCA.

Dave

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Dave, it sounds like you are angry at BFAS for doing it right? Best Friends started off with a group of friends with a passion for animals. They had very little money at the time. It grew because people believed in what they were doing, they believed in what they were doing. I have seen avian rescues in Ontario, Canada that are nothing more than a money making operation. Birds aren't vetted, etc. My biggest pet peeve is the breeder/rescues and we have a couple of those. I would love to have a rescue such as Best Friends in Ontario that I could support. I now focus my support on raising funds for PDD research because I will not support a "rescue" that is run by a breeder.

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Dave, it sounds like you are angry at BFAS for doing it right? Best Friends started off with a group of friends with a passion for animals. They had very little money at the time. It grew because people believed in what they were doing, they believed in what they were doing. I have seen avian rescues in Ontario, Canada that are nothing more than a money making operation. Birds aren't vetted, etc. My biggest pet peeve is the breeder/rescues and we have a couple of those. I would love to have a rescue such as Best Friends in Ontario that I could support. I now focus my support on raising funds for PDD research because I will not support a "rescue" that is run by a breeder.

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LOL! You know, Bev, I knew as I typed it that someone would probably take it that I was angry or "sour-grapes" at Best Friends. I tried not to come off that way because nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is that I have nothing but the utmost of admiration and respect for Best Friends and I guess that is why I chose to hold them up as a model.

No doubt, Best Friends is a success story and a model of what all rescues should be. The purpose of my statements was not to put Best Friends down in any way, but to illustrate the magnitude of the resources and public support that makes Best Friends the success story that it is today. That's not to say that they are perfect. They have their fair share of skeletons in the closet if one cares to look, but they are hands down the best model we have today and are likely to have any time soon for what can and should be done nation wide if we are to avoid the day that euthansia becomes an every-day solution for the parrot over-population problem. My point was the hugh amount of time, effort and resources that have gone into making BF what it is today and what would be required to duplicate that effort 49 more times.

Dave

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Sorry Dave, I misunderstood then.

I never even heard of them until January 1, 2009. National Geographic Channel, Dogtown was on the whole day. I was amazed. I watched every single episode and was blown away by what they did. If there was an avian rescue in Ontario that did half as much as BF's does, I would support them 150%, unfortunately, there is not. I do support my local Humane Society and they do have an Avian Program. I don't think they get a lot of birds though which is probably a good thing. Even here in Canada good homes are hard to find for birds. They are getting dumped at an alarming rate.

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Sorry Dave, I misunderstood then.

I never even heard of them until January 1, 2009. National Geographic Channel, Dogtown was on the whole day. I was amazed. I watched every single episode and was blown away by what they did. If there was an avian rescue in Ontario that did half as much as BF's does, I would support them 150%, unfortunately, there is not. I do support my local Humane Society and they do have an Avian Program. I don't think they get a lot of birds though which is probably a good thing. Even here in Canada good homes are hard to find for birds. They are getting dumped at an alarming rate.

Bev



No sweat, Bev.

Best Friends is a tough act to follow, but they are amazing. I guess the only thing that really bugs me about them (and it's not really their fault) is that they are the yardstick by which the rest of us are measure. That is a lofty thing, no doubt, but not necessarily a valid or fair comparison. BF is a "general purpose" (not species specific) rescue/sanctuary that has been around for the better part of 30 years now dealing with all kinds of animals long before the parrot situation ever came to light. The vast majority of avian rescues in existance today have only been in operation 5 - 8 years on average. Some of them are shisters and crooks and some of them are decent caring folks just like the founders of BF. In many cases, their only fault is that they are today where that "small group of friends with little to work with" where 30 years ago. Especially the "little to work with" part. Most of them will burn out and go under. Those that don't may achieve BF's level of resources but it's not going to happen overnight without a whole lot of help from us.

Dave

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Euthanasia the bad people who breed birds captured from the wild.
euthanasia parrots it is like euthanasia kids their about 2 to 5 years old.
parrots are so smart their are not pets .how can we help all parrots . poor parrots
so sorry for parrot.


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