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#19062 - 06/11/06 04:26 PM Goffin question  
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Please I am new and have read through many threads, but can't seem to find anything to anwser what is going on with my Goffin..

Murphy is 6 years old and I rescued him back in Dec of 05..he came from a home of filth mice dropping in the bottom of his cage kinda of thing..anyway the first 3 months he did wonderful I was able to convert him to Pellet diet but he still will NOT eat any kind of Veggies or fruits nothing to do with people food. In the last two months he has become very loud..screaming day in and day out...I mean, I put all my birds to bed at 8pm, he screams up to 10:30 at night and starts in at 5:30 in the morning..Nothing has changed, schedule is the same..What is going on with my sweet Murphy? I just am at a point that my flock and myself are only getting 6 hours of sleep..Help Please!!!

#19063 - 06/11/06 05:27 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Hi Betty K. You should take him to an avian vet.There could be something health related with him.Pain or just sick.

If you have done that already then look at his surroundings a bit.Is his cage near a window or is it in a corner?Alot of times if the cage is near a window the parrot will be like a watch dog.Screaming at the outdoor movements and animals and ppl walking or driving by.

Another thing I have noticed living with a 'too is she has to watch me eat things first.I eat them and when she sees it is safe and good then she will venture and try it too.

I am sure there are more ppl with more experience with screaming that can help you more but this is a start anyway.I hope it helps a bit.

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#19064 - 06/11/06 05:47 PM Re: Goffin question  
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He's been to the Vets and checked out with not problems..this is a new behavior...I also forgot to mention he is chewing himself on the inside of his legs..not plucking just chewing...

Nothing has changed he isn't near a window...I take him places with me infact he spends 6 hours with me on Saturdays at our local Saturday Market and gets lots of attention and out doors time..I am sure he loves it and doesn't scream at all.....I just want to figure out why? and so we all can get some good sleep..lol I do understand they need lots and lots of attention and he gets his share..I do have other birds and try and give everyone fair share of me..thanks for your response smile

#19065 - 06/11/06 06:59 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Hi BettyK,

I would assume he is a bit envious of the other birds.Gabby my C2 was a sweetheart until the Macaw came into our lives and she is quite gellous of her.Have you added any new birds in this time frame that he started screaming?When Kayla came she hit us like a hammer.She was quite different than any of us were used to.She was like having an adhd child move on in.I still speant the same amount of time with Gabby but she did start getting more and more behaviours.She also started over preening her legs.We have found that by keeping her away from the stimulation of the macaw it has helped her alot.She didn't like the noise or to see the other birds and it just seemed to stress her out more and more.And of course seeing me hold another flock member was totally out of the question in her mind.She hated seeing that and when we would hold Kayla....Gabby would immediately start chewing and preening.Now she has settled some but it still bothers her and she lets me know it too.

Do you ignore the screaming as best you can?If you react to the screams he will get reward for what he is doing.Even a negative reaction is okay in thier mind.If you go running to him or tell him be quiet it is all the same to a bird.

The other thing we do with so many living together is encourage screaming sessions.We pick times in the day and sound off with them and make it a game.I scream then they scream louder and dance around and all that fun stuff.It is a great energy release for them and you.Once you do this they will usually give you some quiet time after.If I have a favorite show to watch on t.v. I will usually get them going and then I can sit down and watch.

Good luck to you...
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#19066 - 06/11/06 07:21 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Hi Betty,

Just wanted to second Janny's post. I have a 6 month old G2 (Betty is her name also) and although she is not much of a screamer, she will occasionally get pretty vocal. I've found that if I scream with her, wave my arms around, flip my hair and just generally have a full on freak out session with her, she releases a lot of the energy then settles down.

In the spirit of behavior modification, however, you might want to try this when your 2 is being playful, but not screaming, then igonore her when she is being persistent with her screaming. I am no expert with toos, but have a lot of experience in behavior modification with children and it seems that despite the differences, some of the priciples stay true.

Good luck,

Cat

p.s. Maybe I'll run into you at Saturday Market sometime. I figure I'll be able to pick you out by the Goffins on your arm wink

#19067 - 06/11/06 07:26 PM Re: Goffin question  
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The only time he sees me with another bird is at my daughters with her CAG..infact he just spent a week there to see if his behavior would be better without me in the picture...and he did really good until the 5th day..then the night screaming began..so guess he was a bit humbled the first few days and then back to his old self eek lol

At my house the Quakers are in one area and the Tiels are in thier own room..so he doesn't see me have cuddle time with any of them..I make a point not to as you know Quakers are jealous also..but
in the beginning I had him set up with a night cage in the Tiel room and then change his sleeping arrangement now I am wondering if this isn't what has made him so mad...wonder if I shouldn't set him back up at night like before and see if this behavior stops

I do at times have screaming sections with the Quakers but I don't have them where Murphy is, not a good combination..lol

I do, at most ignore the screaming..but at 5:30am its kinda hard not to get upset..I just don't want the other birds being woke up so now I just go out and uncover him..by the time I do that I am now wide awake and not a happy camper..lol but better me awake than the others...well I am going to set him back up in the Tiel room tonight and see what happens and I will report tomarrow..thanks again for responding just wished I was getting a little more input confused

#19068 - 06/11/06 07:32 PM Re: Goffin question  
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p.s. Maybe I'll run into you at Saturday Market sometime. I figure I'll be able to pick you out by the Goffins on your arm
Well, that would depend on where you live...LOL
I'm in Oregon smile

Thank you for responding, guess I will try the screaming match and see what happens..thanks smile

#19069 - 06/11/06 07:51 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Well, that would depend on where you live...LOL
I'm in Oregon [Smile]
I saw that. I'm in Vancouver, WA, so just over the bridge. smile

#19070 - 06/11/06 08:14 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Did the screaming at night start shortly after you moved him out of the tiel's room? It may have started, but slowly, and you didn't notice the change in your G2 until it became disruptive to the entire family. It really sounds like he is afraid of being alone at night, or just misses a flock setting. I think you should try moving him back in the original room, and if he does sleep better, his daytime crankiness will improve. It's amazing what a good nights sleep will do for all of you guys! At this point it's worth a try. If it's not medically caused (which you've ruled out) it's almost always something we've changed (that we didn't even see as a change). I think you may have this problem licked!!! My fingers will stay crossed. smile
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#19071 - 06/11/06 08:59 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Thanks Debby, yes the more I think about it now the more I believe this is when the behavior started and it was gradual to the point it is now...funny thing it really helps to type it out I didn't even think of it until I post my first post here and then the light came on..thanks so much to those that responded and listen to me while trying to figure this out...I will give a report tomarrow but I am guessing it going to take a few nights for him to reajust(sp)back...please keep fingers and tailfeathers crossed that this works out wink

#19072 - 06/11/06 09:01 PM Re: Goffin question  
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I saw that. I'm in Vancouver, WA, so just over the bridge
Well, hi there almost nieghbor...yep only a couple of hours away wink

#19073 - 06/11/06 10:47 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Betty,

Ah, when you said Saturday Market and I saw you lived in Oregon I assumed it was the big Portland Saturday Market. To be a couple hours a way, I must have been mistaken.

Nonetheless, good luck with trying a change tonight and let us know how it goes.

Cat

#19074 - 06/11/06 11:59 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Yea, sorry I am south of Eugene..oh how we would love to be able to set up in Portland but isn't cost affective to haul our wares that far...with gas prices and space rent...our Market is a small one and only 1 mile from the house smile

#19075 - 06/12/06 03:00 AM Re: Goffin question  
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Hi BettyK...

I hope he is just calling his flock back to him.That is actually what it sounds like.They will call thier flock for food and sleep.I hope it works for you...

Best of luck.Jan


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#19076 - 06/12/06 07:27 PM Re: Goffin question  
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Update:

First night was a success!!! laugh He slept from 8pm and I got him up at 7:30am just because I wanted to catch him before he started calling out so that way I was the winner and not him...LOL so hoping we are back on track...doing the "happy dance" LOL

Thanks for listening to me and giving great advice..if anything changes I will let you all know..this is a great site smile

#19077 - 06/12/06 08:37 PM Re: Goffin question  
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I am doing the happy dance with you BettyK... <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />

Hope everything remains good

Jan


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#19078 - 06/13/06 04:10 AM Re: Goffin question  
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smile thrilled for you! hope that solves the problem.

#19079 - 06/13/06 07:56 PM Re: Goffin question  
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TY. night two all is well wink

#19080 - 06/13/06 11:31 PM Re: Goffin question  
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YEAAAA!!!!!

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