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#175706 - 08/28/08 03:27 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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Amanda (female) is 525 ish grams. Tika (male) is 900ish grams. Females usually weigh less than males.

The exact weight of your bird is hard to tell. You need to weigh over a period of time to figure her average weight. Weighing regularly will show you fluctuations either up or down.


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#175711 - 08/28/08 03:48 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: TiKa's Dad]  
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Wow! This morning Bella weighed 525 grams exactly. That's a funny confidence. smile

#175726 - 08/28/08 04:57 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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My Isabella is a rather petite 10-year-old U2 hen, and she weighs about 500 grams most days.

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#175743 - 08/28/08 06:21 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: MissYumYum]  
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Tika was only 600 grams when we got him. He was weak and malnourished. The vet always comments on how strong he is now. Exercise is just as important as diet.


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#175745 - 08/28/08 06:48 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: TiKa's Dad]  
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Wow. 300 grams is a big difference! That's great.

So, what's the best way to encourage your 'Too to exercise? Bella has clipped wings right now and I don't have access to an aviary (though I plan to build one in the future). What would you suggest?

#175764 - 08/29/08 12:00 AM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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When the birds are on their playstand they are rarely still. Our sun conure, Frootloop flies. They enjoy ladders,but the ladders usually end up getting chewed up. I need to get something other than wood! We also let Brewster run across the furniture. He actually "hops" more than running. Even though his wings are clipped he still glides from the playstand to the dining room table. He likes going up & down the stairs. Supervise carefully as they can get into anything & everything.


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#175827 - 08/29/08 02:36 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Bird Mom]  
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Bella likes to 'hop' too. If I put her on the couch next to me, she makes a funny game where she climbs up on my leg, turns around, 'hops' off my leg onto the couch and runs to the other end. Then repeat. smile It's adorable.

Here's a slightly silly question... Can a cockatoo ever eat too much cuttlebone? Bella LOVES them. I just want to make sure she doesn't get too much of anything.

Thanks again!

#175829 - 08/29/08 03:25 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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A healthy well fed parrot will regulate his own body weight. They will only eat if they want/need it. Too much food. No such thing.
Supplementation like vitamins are what you can give too much of. A healthy diet does not require supplementation.


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#175837 - 08/29/08 04:04 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: TiKa's Dad]  
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When my M2 hen became eggbound last year w/2 eggs, my AV didn't even want to think about giving her a calcium supplement until her labs came back to see if there was a deficit (which there wasn't). John's right, a healthy diet does not require supplementation.

A friend of mine's cockatoo was tentatively diagnosed with Aspergillosis earlier this year. Come to find out they believe that the cause of his problems was over supplementation because she fed him a variety of different brands of pellets and the final diagnosis was that he was over-supplemented. Once she reduced the pellets to 1 brand his health issues rectified themselves.


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#175839 - 08/29/08 04:09 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: TiKa's Dad]  
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So should I cut back the use of her cuttlebone? That's sad, because it was one of her favorite 'snacks'.

She also loves broccoli, snap peas, and dried fruit like apples. She’s scared of oranges, but I know she’s not supposed to eat too much of them anyway.

Do your ‘Toos like cooked or raw veggies better? Bella only eats raw broccoli. Kind of funny.

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#175840 - 08/29/08 04:18 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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Cuttle bone is food. No need to take it away. Every bird eats different. The trick is find out what YOUR bird will eat.

Supplementation means adding vitamins and such to food in chemical form.

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#175841 - 08/29/08 04:26 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: TiKa's Dad]  
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I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding. After EM said calcium supplement, I thought you were saying that the cuttle bone was a supplement. Now I feel much better. smile And Bella will be happy too.

#176319 - 09/02/08 02:29 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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We’ve had Bella for going on two weeks and everything is well. She is starting to like more food and is opening up to us more and more each day. She loves to flap her wings and ‘display’ every night at 6:30-7:00. It’s adorable. It makes me happy to know that she is enjoying her new (and last) home.

She has picked up a funny habit that I’d like to ask you all about. I’m the one that feeds her. Whether that’s baby food, veggies and fruit or parrot pellets, I always do the feeding. But for some reason, every night she’ll ‘cry’ to my husband like a baby bird begging it’s mother for food, even if I just fed her. Is there an explanation for why she does the baby cry to him rather than me since I am the only one that ever feeds her?

Other than that, she still seems to enjoy us both equally. She wants me in the morning, him in the afternoon, and likes us both around in the evening.

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#176323 - 09/02/08 03:46 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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She may not have been weaned properly. Do a search on abundance weening.


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#176328 - 09/02/08 04:36 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Ketrel]  
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I think that's probably a large part of it. I talked to the family that had her for two weeks before me and they said she cried like that a lot, but they didn't know what she was crying about. She is almost a year old, so she should soon reach the point that she doesn’t want baby food much anymore, but she sure enjoys it whenever I offer. What would you suggest? Should I feed her baby food on a regular cycle and see if that helps?

And perhaps she was handfed by a male early on in life? That might be why she cries to my husband and not me. That’s the only thing I can think of.

#176329 - 09/02/08 05:05 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Nomokis]  
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I don't know what to tell you maybe others do. If she wasn't weened properly it doesn't matter how old she is. If I were in your position Id probably resume nightly feedings hell even morning feedings if she would take them. I wish I had the article on abundance weening Jan is always posting frown


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#176331 - 09/02/08 05:48 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: Ketrel]  
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Abundance Weaning Had the link bookmarked wink. Just my opinion, but as long as they want to be the baby, I am happy to oblige.

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#176333 - 09/02/08 05:58 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: FeatheredAngels]  
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Here is another article on Abundance weaning.
http://www.companionparrot.com/Abundance%20Weaning.htm


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#176337 - 09/02/08 06:09 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: TiKa's Dad]  
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I love Sally Blanchard writings. I really like that one a great deal, Thank you John! grin. Wasn't sure if it was acceptable to link things from the Companion Parrot Quarterly.

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#176339 - 09/02/08 06:42 PM Re: Sleeping Bella and other updates [Re: FeatheredAngels]  
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Good articles. I'll start offering the baby food more and try to handfed her some other wet foods too. How awful it must be to not get enough food. I wonder why pet stores try to wean baby birds as young as they do. It seems cruel. If I remember correctly, Bella's (at that point known as Toby) first owner purchased her at 4 1/2 months. Way too young. They did handfeed her some, but I doubt enough.

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