#151701 - 01/23/08 06:14 PM
PetSmart abusing animals ?- VIDEO
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The Today ShowWARNING - THIS IS A VERY DISTURBING VIDEO!!
Birds are angels who lift us up when our own wings forget how to fly.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Noelle, A Rehabilitation in Progress
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#151707 - 01/23/08 07:09 PM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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The segment shown on The Today Show was edited from a longer video, part of which shows a cockatoo chick dying without medical care over the course of 45 days. The investigator kept asking if he could adopt her, but he was refused. Click the link below to see the entire video and read the undercover investigator's account of conditions at Rainbow Exotics in Houston, a breeder/supplier which PetSmart buys birds and small animals from. The Video is disturbing. If you don't want to view it you can still read part of the investigators notes, and get involved in a letter writing campaign if you desire. http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/petsmart_investigation
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#151717 - 01/23/08 07:52 PM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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Thank you for posting this Echosmom. I don't usually watch these because I do find them disturbing and simply being horrified helps no one.
However, PetSmart is a large company that has stores in numerous provinces and states around North America. MyToos.com is dedicated to the wellbeing of cockatoos specifically. Petsmart was/is(?) involved in the Kaytee bird mills.
Can we not simply ask all of our (how many Jerry?) seven kajillion members to stop shopping there? Can we not say, as a group,
"yes we're here for cockatoos, BUT petsmart is terrible for cockatoos AND hamsters and we choose not to support the philosophies, attitudes and ethical mores that treat not only birds, but all animals in this atrocious way. We may even agree that some PetSmart stores try harder than others to be decent, BUT as a whole, the profits go back to the larger company that we choose not to have anything at all ever to do with because we don't pay our hard earned money to people who treat animals that way."
Okay, it's wordy. It could be tweaked.
Now. My question, just to be devil's advocate is: Do we know if the footage is true? I know that a bunch of PETA members have been busted staging some pretty awful stuff to 'make a point'. I'm afraid I don't entirely trust PETA's veracity.
Saying that, if it's true, I'd happy to start a letter or see if I could get a petition on petition.com for everyone to sign (it can' be so hard) to send them.
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#151757 - 01/23/08 10:53 PM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I'm unaware of the situation in which you refer of PETA members getting "busted" for staging videos. I would love to know about those instances for my own information. It was just on the news a week or so ago. I will try to look it up. I'm about to go to bed now, so I'll have to do it later. It does make me question them some as much as I am against unethical treatment of animals.
Last edited by spinnyspoo; 01/23/08 11:03 PM. Reason: decided to try to look for link, but really, I'm too tired and need to go to bed now. :)
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#151794 - 01/24/08 02:31 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I watched this and, obviously, found it horrible to watch. But what struck me, though I know the investigator must have been overwhelmed, she just filmed this poor baby dying for 45 days. I think I would have just grabbed the bird and left as soon as I would have been afforded the opportunity. I realize her purpose was to save "the multitudes" by getting PetSmart to stop the sale of these animals, but at the same time, what about the one that died before her very eyes. It wasn't like it was a quick, instant death, like so many of the small, furries in the video, but Angel died such a slow and preventable death. The investigator could have done something. I don't know how you could love animals so much, and let that one die. Any thoughts anyone?
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#151795 - 01/24/08 02:31 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I am not going to get into a debate about PETA, as I said, I'm not a big fan of their tactics, but as EchosMom said, this is not about PETA really. They just happened to be the ones who conducted this undercover operation and regardless of how I feel about their tactics and motives, what we saw speaks for itself.
This has to stop and if it takes PETA to bring it out into the light, so be it.
We may not be able to win the war against breeding right now, but we CAN pick our battles and try to win a few of them. This is one battle we can win if we get the word out and expose this animal/bird mill to the public.
If we are able to at least make Petsmart stop using this disgusting mill and help get the mill shut down, then we have won a battle and we move on to the next...baby steps.
We may be able to at the very least, save the animals that are at this moment being abused, tortured and neglected at this one facility and that's a start.
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#151800 - 01/24/08 02:50 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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Tina, your questions are very valid.
But, there is a logical, although heartwrenching, answer to your question..."The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the one". Sad, but true. That "one" baby, will hopefully save the lives of many others....IF we take a stand.
I'd make a terrible investigative reporter because I would have snatched that baby too!
Birds are angels who lift us up when our own wings forget how to fly.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Noelle, A Rehabilitation in Progress
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#151801 - 01/24/08 02:53 AM
Re: PetSmart abusing animals - VIDEO
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I have one. Someone has to document this kind of thing and show it to the world. As Echo's Mom said, this happens all over the nation every day. The general pubic needs to know. We should spend our time seeing to that by spreading it everywhere we can. These kinds of awakening moments are not created by weaklings. I'm sure it was extremely distasteful and disgusting to the documenter but it is no different than us trying to get people to take purchased, baby cockatoos back to the breeders and stores that sold them. I'm not fussing at you here but some baby cockatoos are going to suffer and die. Their deaths, when detailed like this, help in some small way to prevent more from suffering the same fate, or worse. We, here, are a small group of dedicated caretakers; we are the minority. Most people don't have a clue what they are doing and their birds suffer terribles days for years on end. PETA aside, if we just sit around and tsk, tsk when we see these images, we are just as bad as the perpetrators. Show these things to people you know! Explain things to people you know. Write letters and be outraged and do something! That documenter did a distasteful and possibly dangerous job and that chick died a slow and completely unnatural death. Did they have to endure all that for nothing? I sure hope not.
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