katiebird wink good post just wish that everyone really reads the full post. i don't use a spray bottle with capone, he likes his bath and i would not want to to make him fear water. also where i got him he hated spary bottles so i have never used one or plan to use one on him. also if we think and relate to our birds as prey animals we can maybe not do bad things out of mistakes. birds are prey animals and we a meat eaters. we are predators. if we can change our behaviors to match what birds do we can have more success. also laugh wink hiedi, nice to mret you. sounds lke you have a great repore with your birds. i had fun reading these posts. laugh