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#148850 - 12/30/07 06:18 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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If the vet told you the vomiting is fine unless it is solid he/she is wrong. Liquidy vomit is MORE of a concern than undigested vomit. Time for a second opinion.


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#148853 - 12/30/07 06:32 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  

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Im sorry...I feel like you are talking in circles.

Your very first post makes it sound like Kiwi is regurgating {sp} for you...then you say she was locked in the car by accident with the heater on and she has been doing this since the accident. Then you say she just started this recentally, to me recentally means a few day but you had already stated this has been going on for three months. You never said you inquired about this concern to your vet. You have also not answered the question.....

Is she bobbing her head up and down or is she violentally slinging her head from side to side.

Please dont take this as me jumping on you because Im not. At this point I am just becomming confused as to whats going on with your bird and Im pretty sure at this point, I am not the only one. Can you please give more details.

#148870 - 12/30/07 08:43 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: ]  
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Okay, on october 11, 2007 about four P.M. me and my friend Cortney went to an FFA activity I didn't have enough time to take the birds home. So i took them with about five it started getting chilly so i turned the heater on in my car let it heat up a while, then i sat Kiwi on the top of my seat in the car Cortney put Nana on the top of her seat accidently hitting the lock button with her bottom locking the door. I stayed by the car and went to check the heat making sure it wasn't too high about two minutes later and realized the car had gotten locked. As soon as i realized it was i called the cops to see if they could unlock my car then they said they couldn't do it because the lock smiths could sew them for it so then i called my dad they had been in the car about ifteen minutes now i was arguing with the police officer about the life or DEATH situation since they said it had to be a child in a life or death situation these ARE my children. So i called my dad and went to leave the house after finding my spare key it will take him half an hour to get there from my house. About five minutes later I called my boyfriend to find out if he had a spare key to my car or if he knew anyone that could help me. He did not. About five minutes after that the police called me back saying that they would make an exception this one time for me. and about ten minutes after that the officer showed up where we were. He got them out by the time we were able to get them out Kiwi had vomited once. I got her out and she vomited again. Yes this was vomit she was flailing her head around as she was doing it. On the way home i called the vet again to talk to the doctor they told me to keep an eye on her and if she did it again to bring her in she did it once when i was on the phone with them she was still cooling down some. At the time and i let them know she was doing it again they said alright Keep an eye on her so I did once in a while now she will do it butwont shaker her head like you are describing but I have not seen her bob her head when doing it either I have a vet appointment scheduled for her for wednesday I have half the payment i need for them to see me set aside and i am talking to my parents about helping me some but the last week she has done it more and more sometimes it is watery sometimes it is not most the time it is more food than water.


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#148872 - 12/30/07 09:05 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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She is doing everything normal I even found a vegetable that she will eat with me... carrots and broccoli


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#148875 - 12/30/07 09:54 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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Just for your information we do have an edit your post function.We don't encourage the double posting because it takes up such valuable space on the board.

There is not much we can do for you in terms of diagnosing your 'too.You will need to go to your avian vet to get that.Make sure to write everything down that is a concern to you because they will be the ones to answer any health concern abou this matter.IMHO something more than just regurgitating is going on and has been for a long period.It really should not have waited.Can you get this 'too in for an emergency visit...there is an extra fee but I think it is warrented.When you phone please tell them EVERYTHING! As well as for how long it has been going on.She could have something lodged in her crop even maybe swallowed a piece of toy or something and you need to find out what is going on with her NOW.Because of the fact that it is becoming more often receantly says what ever it is...it is now progressing.Don't wait.


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#148876 - 12/30/07 09:57 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: Janny]  
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i have had her out for three hours now and she has not even tried anything just wants to snuggle and be close to me she keeps telling me i love you then starts kissing at me she also keeps pushing up into e and panting then i stop her and put her back in my lap and pet her head her crop looks normal she is still gaining weight she is up to 537 grams when i got her she was at 356 grams

Edit: I needed to clarify that she only does this when i get her out of the cage and let her in my lap she have never done it inside her cage she is not sneezing or anything and i keep my room at 75 degrees all winter and let the sun heat it in the summer I also have a humidifier going at all times. She still has not done it today for anyone who wishes to know and i have had her out since i woke up.

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#148896 - 12/31/07 12:48 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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http://parrotisland.mainsecureserver.com/catalog/article_info.php?articles_id=58

http://www.premiercages.co.uk/parrot-behavior.html

http://forthebirdsdvm.com/breedingbehavior.htm


Your bird is in sexual overdrive.Please read those links above.I would still keep the vet appointment as well as try to get her in sooner.Also be aware she could be eggbound.


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#148898 - 12/31/07 01:05 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: Janny]  
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I never touch her sexually just the top of her head. How would i go about stopping this regirgitation she is doing?


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#148899 - 12/31/07 01:11 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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Try giving her a foot toy to play with if she likes them,or offering her something to eat like a nutriberry or avicakes anything she likes to eat to get her mind off trying to feed you.You need to get her mind on something else.Also don't allow her under the blankets or pushing heavily against you for a while as this may be leading her into the regurgitating.You will have to try different things to keep her mind off feeding you.If she likes paper shredding give her some paper to shred or if she is like my birds they like leather tied in knots and will undo the knots and then I tie them again.When the panting starts is when you need to redirect her attention right away.


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#148900 - 12/31/07 01:23 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: Janny]  
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I have been stoping her and giving her something new to do then she somehow links it to panting she has not been acting strange at all infact she has become more trusting of me i have had her since july i believe she is finally getting comfortable in my house i have given her things to shred but i need to keep them out of the cage so she does not try to use them to make a nest i gave her palm leaves that were woven and she is terrified of them The stroe i go to they have no foot toys i give her cat balls and wrond things but she does not enjoy them unless it is a cardboard ring i get at a local store even then she is really picky on her toys she wont play with them unless i take her to pick them out and i dont want her to get sick that is why i keep the house so hot i dont want to loose her i love her to death she is a wonderful bird and i have the honour of being her caregiver writing this reply i started in tears thinking of loosing her ya she can make you want to make cockatoo soup out of her but you could never do that look into those eyes all you can do is love her her personallity is amazing she loves everyone not just one person I have another question about my little man that i need to start another thread on thank you so much everyone for all your help it means so much to me I am so glad that i have found this site to help me with any and all questions i have and am glad that everyone gets down and to the point that is really good and i am glad that no one is for breeding because it is aweful Kiwi my girl is my rescue i worry about her so much day in and day out i am stil learning and happy to have such a wonderful girl like her to brighten my days she is only five years old and i want to have her for the rest of my life let us make each other happy and healthy


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#148901 - 12/31/07 01:26 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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You need to read the links I gave you in the above post.they have sooo much information in them.Take some time and read them.


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#148902 - 12/31/07 01:29 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: Janny]  
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I have read one i am still reading the others thank you so much for your help and i will futher my searches on this subject


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#148905 - 12/31/07 02:14 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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Thank you for your help so much.


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#148918 - 12/31/07 04:40 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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Kiwinana, we will always be here for you.

Can't really add on to what has been said except that I still think she needs to see a vet earlier (ie before your appointment on Wednesday). Can't you push the appointment up earlier? If you feel that the vet has not given you a satisfactory answer, then try a different vet. (It's like us humans, sometimes we just have to keep seeing different doctors until we find a suitable ones for our illnesses). If you need to know which vets are good in your area, then let us know the area you are in and maybe some of us will know a good avian vet there. Take care

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#148945 - 12/31/07 10:13 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: gn18]  
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The vet is closed until wednesday for the holiday i have her set for bright and early in the morning to get in to the emergency vet would be a hundred dollars to walk rheough the door and another hundred for every hour after that plus a fee for diagnosis i checked into it.


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#148959 - 12/31/07 04:34 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: KiwiNana]  
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Originally Posted By: KiwiNana
The vet is closed until wednesday for the holiday i have her set for bright and early in the morning to get in to the emergency vet would be a hundred dollars to walk rheough the door and another hundred for every hour after that plus a fee for diagnosis i checked into it.


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#148963 - 12/31/07 05:42 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: EchosMom]  
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I echo EchosMom worth every penny of it! With a sick bird you don't wait. Cassie just woke up yesterday morning with clogged nares. I called the vet yesterday and brought her in today. $209. but I wouldn't wait a day with her they can get really sick and die too quickly. You make due with what you have and go without to ensure the bird is properly cared for if not then you shouldn't have a bird! Sorry just my opinion, but I think it is the same opinion as most of our members. Nancy


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#148982 - 12/31/07 07:25 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: BE2Cassie]  
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I agree.It is my job to provide for them what ever they need...it is not thier job to go without care so I can have the things I want.It may be costly but this is what I think...I would really kick myself in the rear for a very long time if...I woke up and my bird had died because I wouldn't spend a few extra dollars.I am not saying this is going to happen but it is a possability.


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#149017 - 12/31/07 10:26 PM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: Janny]  
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Birds cover up pain and illness very well. When they start acting sick it is sometimes too late. I would get the bird to emergency NOW!

#149066 - 01/01/08 03:50 AM Re: >Vomiting< [Re: Birdiemommy]  
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I took her in last night after i got off here she is doing fine doing some bloodwork


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