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#130370 - 10/12/06 06:11 AM Baby bird advice...  
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I deleted a long thread on caring for a baby cockatoo tonight. Why?

Because we dont give advice here on baby birds. There are many good websites that do.

We do not condone the purchase of babies and we wont deal with new owners regarding those babies.

#130371 - 10/15/06 12:43 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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That is sooo good! I am very happy with that.

I was wondering a while back why everyone was giving advise on this board on how to raise babies.

STOP THE TRADE IN BABYPARROTS!

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#130372 - 10/16/06 05:52 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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I was wondering a while back why everyone was giving advise on this board on how to raise babies.
I know that I feel badly (for the bird) whenever I hear of an unweaned baby sold to some unsuspecting newbie, so that's why I try to help where I can. I also understand that there is a conflict between the agenda of this board and providing this kind of information.

Is it acceptable to communicate the RISKS of handfeeding (like aspiration, crop burns and crop stasis) and say: "We do not condone the captive breeding or hand-rearing of cockatoos."

Is that too much information?

In a past life, I used to be a handfeeder, but since I've seen ao many babies grow to be neurotic plcukers under so-called adequate care, I totally agree that we shouldn't do it anymore.

#130373 - 10/17/06 02:20 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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The most important thing we can tell them is, "if you haven't hand-fed before, get yourself and your baby bird to an avian vet and learn how to do it properly". Yes, it's expensive. No doubt the person making the sale "neglected" to inform the victim...er, customer...of the location of the nearest avian vet, and the fee scale, too. They NEED this info, and they need to find it out NOW, if they didn't last year shocked . The bird's life depends on it.


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#130374 - 10/17/06 06:37 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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Find yourself a good bird club. They are a wealth of good solid information. As for the breeder who sold an unweaned baby SHAME ON YOU. mad

#130375 - 10/18/06 12:23 AM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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Gee our local bird club is a bunch of breeders fighting the county against regulations.

#130376 - 10/18/06 02:45 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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Our club is made up of birds who keep people around for their amusment. <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> Seriously, there are clubs out there such as ours that is made up of people who are trying to educate the public on these magnificent creatures. We are against the sale of unweaned babies and host a rescue that has placed well over 400 birds into loving permanent homes. So look these kind of clubs are out there.

#130377 - 10/19/06 04:25 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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Since the "local" (only one within 100 miles) club seems to be the kind CABirdMom describes, I guess I need to try starting something around here...except that most of the people I know with birds are either very young, very busy, "thinking of getting into breeding" confused or "getting out of breeding" because of various difficulties...and then there is the local dog-and-cat vet who kept an Amazon in her display window for several months :rolleyes: . (Petey is no longer in the window, and I don't know where he is. Hope she didn't sell him to a breeder; that is the sort of mindset she seems to have)


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#130378 - 10/25/06 08:53 PM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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Could you please clarify for me what age we are going up to on not giving advice? Just unweaned babies? What age are they not babies anymore? Really wanting to know as I do not want to break the rules of the board.

#130379 - 10/26/06 12:05 AM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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If it is felt right to delete my posts over the baby tiels, then please do so. I say this with understanding and genuine feeling. I know the circumstances were not the 'norm' as such, and I got a tremendous amount of help and understanding which I appreciated and needed beyond measure. However, if my main post (or follow-ups) could potentially lead people into thinking that raising babies is fine and dandy and to be praised, then maybe now is the time for them to go. If they possibly serve a purpose, then of course Id like them to stay, I am happy to leave that decision in the hands of yourself, and the moderators. I realise we are talking cockatoos here, not cockatiels, but I do want to help the cause, not hinder it in any way.
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#130380 - 10/26/06 01:17 AM Re: Baby bird advice...  
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anne, i was happy to help you in your circumstance as it was an unintentional breeding and not your fault. i agree completely that those who go out and purchase unweaned birds should go elsewhere for advice. though i have experience in this area, you know i would never recommend it to anyone, except in a case like yours where a life was at stake. breeding birds and intentionally handfeeding for commercial gain is inappropriate, and i tend to ignore those posts. we're here to prevent such things, not encourage it!


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