MSB325: Personally I think that you have alot of nerve stating that "Just because you are an American doesn't mean that you have to act like one"!!!! That is a very uncalled for comment...we have members of this board from all over the world, and yes, Jerry is American and so are many others on this board....if you have a problem with that I would highly suggest that you find a cockatoo site that is primaraly Ausie!!!! I think that you owe Jerry and other PROUD AMERICANS on this site an apology.
Angie

Nancy, I find it very interesting that you heard about Mytoos from your avian vet. That is some tribute. Is this something that happens often?

Marie I'm not sure of other vets, but mine in MA suggests it to all new bird families. This vet takes in Avian residents/interns from Tufts Vet School. Im not sure what you would call them. They are already vets but are specializing in Avian Vet Med. I have been very impressed with then so far. Nancy

Thank-you Phyl, brody, lori and Michael for your warm comments about "newbies" for I am one myself! I find this site very knowlegdable (spelling) about Too's and I am a NEWBIE at that also, only having Buster for 2-3 months now. I have done HOARDS of research on the animal and intensive studying before I adopted him! I live in a small town and there are not many Too owners...a few African Grey's though but primarely HORSES AND COWS!..so I have come here to discuss issues, problems and amazing moments I have with my new found partner.
I find that I am always coming on to find out what others have to say, and to see what more I can learn from 'hands on' experienced folk such as yourselves!
Thank you for making me feel welcome!

msbee325,

I have two basic beliefs regarding the pet trade

1. The only good breeder is an ex-breeder.
2. The only good pet store is one that doesn't sell pets.

This has nothing to do with being American or any other nationality. You will find people all over the world that share these same beliefs.

If you find this too much to stomach then go find a site that is more to your liking. There is no point debating the previous two points because if you don't get it there is nothing that I or anyone else is going to say to convince you.

People (regardless of nationality) can justify almost anything when their livelihood depends on it, even when other alternatives to that livelihood exist.

I know we have citizens in my counter (USA) that can give being American a bad name. However I'm sure that every country has citizens that do the same for their country.

If I'm rude at times, well tuff. My primary reason for being here is not to make friends or to make people feel good. My primary reason for being here is to do what I can to minimize the suffering that breeders and pet stores continue to create.

If I do make some friends all the better.

HUH? Am I missing something or WHAT?????? What has "Being American but not acting like an American" got to do with birds?????? Geez, what is the Trolls on the board week???? :rolleyes:

Our avian vet not only recoommends this site, but has a live link to it on his own web site.

didn't we go through all this sh*t a couple of months ago? why rake it up again? you can't stereo type people for their nationality but if you're gonna... wouldn't that make you a blonde airhead that surfs, swigs beer and puts another shrimp on the barbie, while constantly calling everyone dude or mate? ( no offence richard oz ya know we love ya ) if you don't like us (and no i'm not american ) and what we stand for and against it's simple. sod off

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OH MY GAWD Corkytoo I like you! your my type of gal! no nonesence with a comeback all the time!

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it just really winds me up. jerry and the mods work there asses off for these birds and to educate us measley humans as to what it's really like for our birds. and they do it all for nothing. we probably won't reap the benefits in our lifetime but with a good foundation and educating our kids they could achieve what we can't. a stop to breeding. and then you get some wise ass that digs up muck from months ago. it was horrible then and it's horrible now. let's just hope msbee or whatever they call themselves have gone back under their rock to let us that give a damn try and make things right.