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#112423 - 03/11/03 03:28 PM Teen Talk  
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Welcome to TeenTalk! This is the place for teens to whine cry and complain about how "rude" we treat them. This is the place for teens to convince us that they are "different"..and very capable of taking care of a large cockatoo, through - School ( 8 to 9 hours a day) Homework -(? hours a day) Activities - (? hours a day) Dating - (?) football, baseball, cheerleading, swim team, etc etc etc. This is the place where teens can tell us about their college years and what the bird will be doing all that time. This is the place to convince us that as they are starting out in their new career...dating and marriage, they STILL have plenty of time for their bird.

This topic is in response to Matt:
http://www.mytoos.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=000016 By the way, Matt's not the first teen to feel this way. Over the years, about 85% of teens have said the same thing to us (and a lot worse) in different forums.

OK! Lets get started! wink

#112424 - 03/11/03 08:44 PM Re: Teen Talk  
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Okay, you got it.

I turned 16 on December 23, 2002. While I may not have a large cockatoo, I considered getting an Umbrella 'too, and decided I would not (at the time), and got a cockatiel.

That was the first of four birds.

I now have a red-bellied mini macaw, and two parrotlets as well.

About Rudeness:

I don't view the people here as rude, I view them as concerned individuals that care about the bird. I agree with that. Some people are extremely stupid and need to be hit over the head, repeatedly, before they get the idea.

About schedules:

I am at school from 7:25-2:30 on week days. I'm not home when my mom uncovers cages and gives the birds their morning toast.

I work in the afternoons from 2:45-5:30 or so, and I work for my parents, so if I want a day off, I can take a day off. I come home again, then starts the bird time. My brother usually plays with the 'tiel and the macaw, because he can handle them. The parrotlets, on the other hand, will not come out unless I'm there.

I have Gabby on me until dinner at about 6:30, and we have some 'quiet' time. Java's out and the parrotlets have been greeted. All's good. Come dinner, I stuff the microwavable stuff in the microwave to give it time to cool off, and eat my dinner.

After dinner, I mix up whatever the birds are getting for dinner, and open up the parrotlet cages. Out come Pepsi and Cola, and we get Gabby and Java's dinners ready first, then I put the parrotlets on the table with their own plate of food. During this time, I do homework (if I have any).

About 90 minutes later, I put the parrotlets back, and take Gabby out for a little moer before bed time, and then I put her to bed at 8:20 to get her nice and calm before bed time at 8:30. I cover up her cages and the parrotlet cages, and take out Java. Now, Java's been out for most of the afternoon with someone, just not me. After 8:30, we either shower, or keep doing homework, or go on the computer.

By now, the hedgies are out and so is the skinny pig. My weekends involve giving every cage a good going over (7, 4 bird cages and 2 hedgies and 1 skinny pig cages), working on god-knows-what projects. Forget vacations. No such thing. I missed out on a summer vacation last year, willingly, because of my zoo.

About responsibilities:

I have almost always had a dog. Right now, I have a 90 pound chocolate labrador retriever. He is nearly 15 months old. I was responsible for finding a good obedience class and paying for it (which I did), and I was with him the entire way. I handled this dog's training and he listens to me more than anyone else.

I am expected to maintain a grade average over 85%. I'm doing that now. I'm in 11th grade, and school is not easy. It's even harder because I have a hearing disability.

Add my zoo to that, and there you go.

About maturity:

I had to grow up a lot faster than anyone else that I grew up with. I was in the eighth-grade mentality when they were in fifth-grade mentality. I had to grow up quick because of my hearing disability. I can't say I regret it: I got the right attitude and drive to work early.

About post-secondary:

In 2004 I plan to enter the local college in my city for accounting. I'll probably live at home and pay for food/board. That's expected. I have job security because I work for my parents, and they're going to assist in my paying for college.

About dating and marriage:

1. I'm not dating anyone.
2. They'd have to get the okay from my animals.
2 b. This is nearly impossible.
3. I have NO PLANS OF GETTING MARRIED!

Conclusion:

Love me, love my zoo.

#112425 - 03/12/03 12:37 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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As I have told you before and others, you are a wonderful example of a well balanced, mature and amazing 16 year old Michelle ;-)

BUT...dont ever say never...about love and marriage, you just never know about that one, it has a tendancy to sneak up on you when you least expect it..LOL

Keep doing what youre doing, you set a great example for all teenagers that visit the board and you are our very own resident teenage "expert" and an asset to the board.

#112426 - 03/12/03 08:25 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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Sounds like Michelle should consider Veterinary Medicine school....
(Accounting - yuk)
You are a shining example and may I convey my personal thanks and appreciation to your parents for allowing the "zoo" and for obviously bringing you up so well!!!
I asked for a parrot at age 8 and never was allowed but have quite a few now - I told my mother - See I got my parrot in the end.
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#112427 - 03/12/03 03:53 PM Re: Teen Talk  
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Mona,

Okay, I won't say never. I'll just say I'm not planning on it. ;-) And thank you very much. smile

db,

I thought about vetrinary medicine, but I don't enjoy sciences. >_< And I'd need a lot of them to get into Guelph University, which is almost three hours away from my house...so I'd have to board somewhere, and the birds have to come.

~~

I've been thinking about maybe opening up my own business when I get a little older. smile An exclusively avian store.

I wouldn't sell birds, though, for a lot of reasons.

1. I'd have a hard time selling them (I'd fall in love and never want to let them go)

2. I don't agree with selling birds through pet stores, but rather through good breeders who care about where their birds go.

3. It would be a tough decision that comes from selling to make ends meet and selling selectively. frown

But back to the store:

I'd sell toys, foods, (maybe cages), books, and home-made breads/muffins. That type of thing. smile And books.

A few of my friends (that I admitted this to) said it probably wouldn't work, because the big revenue comes from selling birds. But I just told them "Yeah, and the heartache I'd face isn't worth the revenue."

#112428 - 03/12/03 06:28 PM Re: Teen Talk  
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Michelle,
WOW!!! You are truly a special person (and MUCH more mature than I was at your age!!!) It's always gratifying to see "young adults" (you qualify... alot of people much older don't) that think so clearly. smile Even if the store doesn't work out, people like you can make an enormous impact on these wonderful animal's lives! Keep posting! laugh

#112429 - 03/12/03 07:26 PM Re: Teen Talk  
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Well I'm impressed too Michelle. smile

When I think of what *I* was like at 16 (words like "immature", "idiot" and "total lack of long term planning capability" come to mind).... wink

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#112430 - 03/13/03 01:01 AM Re: Teen Talk  

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O.K. now it's my turn. I have never really told how old I was, but now I am. I am teen. 14. A long while ago, I said I was a little older, so I could give senarios without someone saying that your too young. I knew that! lol smile (Thank goodness)
But here is my case. I have been studying/learning about birds for about 2 to 3 years now. When I found this site, it went against everything I had learned. So then I wanted senerios to know if in a few(well more than few years) I would be suited for a too. Well I don't think I will until I am retired. (hopefully)
I am looking for a bird though, either a cockatiel or budgie. The ony problem is, my mom says no! So I am waiting till I am older, see how my life is, andthen maybe get a bird.
Sorry if I led to make anyone believe that I am older. But I needed to get all of this off my chest.
And to every kid out there, they are not being rude here. They are trying avoid making your birds life miserable, and telling you how it will be if you get one. It took me quite a while to get it in my head that a large parrot of any sort wasn't in my near future. wink

-Ronnie

#112431 - 03/13/03 01:35 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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Hip Hip Hooray! This board proves that we can get through to teenagers.

Michelle you are a phenom and an asset to this board. Good luck in what ever career you decide. With a mind like yours there is no doubt that you will succeed. EDIT Hey, glad to know your from London, ON - I'm in Mississauga smile

Ronnie, you little devil wink You have shown me that you are more mature than , well you know who by understanding what we all are trying to say and do and thinking about the parrot and not your feelings. But, that would be selfish now wouldn't it. My My your 2 years younger! Go figure! :p

#112432 - 03/13/03 01:51 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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I have noticed that teens tend to come in two basic types, the antagonists, the angels. The antagonist wants instant gratification while the angel can delay gratification- such as putting off a cockatoo until they are set up in life and established-while the antagonist just wants one because they are "cool" with no thoughts as to the bird , just the immediate counts with the antagonist. Hats off to these two "angels" for sharing their experiences on this board.

#112433 - 03/13/03 01:52 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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I have always advocated a dedicated kid having a pet. However I also stand strong in the belief that the parents have to be willing to commit to their childrens pets if our children fail.

I agreed to let my 16 year old step daughter get a snake. She had it all planned out, she was going to college and she saved up to buy a mini fridge that had a freezer so she could store the snakes diet, etc. So, for two years, she raised a tiny snake in to an adult with no hitches.

She worked hard, got her scholarship and ran off to college, snake in tow. The best laid plans fell apart. I've had that stupid snake for the past 18 months. I now know I was down right stupid for letting her get it because if the truth be known, I don't like snakes. But every week I feed it, wait for it to poop, clean it's cage and dread that it's another week away when I defrost a dead frozen mouse and feed it to the wicked creature that is living under my coffee table.

And to think that birds are SO much more work. I just hope that any kid who is allowed to get a pet bird has parents who are willing to care for it when the kids grow up and get a life.

Donna

#112434 - 03/13/03 05:28 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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Ronnie,
Just a brief congrats on your honesty. :rolleyes: You'll make a very good birdie daddy one day if you continue to put the bird's best interest before your own. smile

#112435 - 03/13/03 08:24 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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Brave woman Donna....a SNAKE eek I guess for me Hell would have to freeze over before I would allow a snake within 50 yards of my property. But then again I have a snake phobia.... :rolleyes: a spider one too....ha ha ha

#112436 - 03/13/03 06:52 PM Re: Teen Talk  
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Hi,

I think this teen forum is great! It's a very good idea! I'm a teen and own a U2 named Angel. I'm 18 and have had Angel for almost about 2 years now. His birthday is May 23rd and he'll be two years old. I'm throwing him a birthday party and all my family and friends are invited. No one minds much because they now how much I love my baby. The first time I got Angel, my mom bought him for me. I was 17 and my mom bought him for me for x-mas. I talked to Jerry about this once, and I found out what she did was wrong. But there was nothing I could do about it. The reason my mom got him, was because ever since I was little I have had this love and passion for animals. I have owned many pets and all of them I have loved and adored. If they have not died of old age I still have them. My mother got Angel for me to keep me company. I got engaged when I was 16 and my fiance was killed. I was depressed for about a year, and to bring me back to life and to bring me back to my gentle and caring self Angel was bought into my life. I looked at him once and fell in love with him. Every single day after that I did as much research as I could about Umbrella Cockatoos and Cockatoos in general. Now my Angel is in prime health, happy and loving bird. He has his moments of tantrums but I'm a very patient and understanding person and cuddle and comfort him all the time.

I go to college now, so when I'm away during the day Angel stays with his babysitter, 'his grandmother' until I get home. In the morning Angel pulls the sheet off his cage and calls to wake me up so I can give him breakfast, then he's with me throughtout the morning as I get ready. Then his babysitter plays with him while I'm away. When I get back home Angel starts to cry out and show off displaying himself shouting "Peek-a-boo" so I could play with him. He follows me around everywhere and we are totally devoted to each other. I work on certain days, and Angel doesn't mind staying with this babysitter. Most of my paycheck goes on him. I hardly get anything for myself, and make sure everything is in high quality for him.

I have a boyfriend now. Our one year anniversary is in May as well. We are practically engaged. And Angel loves him, and he loves Angel. They get along very well, and my fiance is very patient with him. Everyone in my family treats him like he's a real baby! Sometimes, when I'm at school or work people think from the way I talk about him that I have a child. I do though. smile When I start to have kids, my kids are gonna be raised to respect animals and Angel. Angel is and aways will be part of the family, and my baby forever.

XOXOXOXO

#112437 - 03/13/03 07:15 PM Re: Teen Talk  
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Boy its great to hear about kids like you. Most of the time we hear only the negative. Keep it up, you sound a lot more mature than a lot of adults.

#112438 - 03/14/03 01:02 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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U2Angel:

You are going through before your 20 what most people have before they are 40.

Maybe you can tell me which battery lasts longer Energizer or Duracell :p LOL.

In all seriousness, your maturity speaks volumes. Youngsters like you are a proven asset to this board and especially Teen Talk. keep up the good work. smile

#112439 - 03/17/03 02:54 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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I'd like to thank everyone for their kind comments. smile

Sorry for my delay in posting; my mother and then I took sick over the weekend. Sigh, and school tomorrow. Oh well. Can't afford to miss it, since we'll be doing review for tests on Wednesday. X_X

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Ronnie, your parents are right about not getting a bird right now. smile I got Java (my tiely-bird) for a couple of reasons...one being that I blackmailed my parents into it. They said I could get a parrot if I gave up my goose. Worked that promise out of them before I gave Blizzie back. <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> They were going to make me get rid of her anyway, but at least something good came out of it. Another reason is that I'm generally not a very social person because of my hearing, and my animals keep me company. I was originally going to get two 'tiels, since I played on a travelling team for lacrosse (although I don't any more) and I didn't want Java to be lonely. However, we decided in the end to only get one, because he'd bond with me better. smile

So just wait it out, and enjoy your teen years relatively "poop-free". wink

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My mom is so sick of hereing the word bird. <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" /> The other day after going to see a movie with some firends. We were talking about one of my friends U2 (not hers her grnadmas), and I started saying things, and my mom just flat out said "DONt talk about birds!" LOL. She didn't think it was very funny.
Well I am probably going to keep my teen years poop free, but I still wanted to do something. Thanks to Janice, she incouraged me to make toys then sell them. Well I am going to make toys, but I might donate them also to rescues or stuff. I can't belive my mom is letting me get some leather strips and sisal rope smile ! But I had better get it before she says no.
-Here is a question. I ordered my sisal rope and leather strips throuhg a magazine/catalog, and they were relativly cheap, but the shipping was very expensive. Can I go to a hardware store to get some? or should I not do that due to fumes?
- Ronnie

#112441 - 03/24/03 02:04 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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LOL I love these people. As I THINK you know, I am, as well, 14, and the owner of a U2. I'm lucky smile Homeschooled. Zeebas on my shoulder, or no more than 5 feet away from me during my schooling. It was decided before I got Z that i'd go to a local college (there are plenty around) and live at home, with mom here to play with Z during the day (hes a womans bird). As far as maturity goes, I got myalgic encephalo myalitis 3 years ago--i've lost friends, gained friends, had to stop going to school...I think I did quite a bit of growing up in those few years. I diddn't have much of a choice smile .

I'm healthy enough to clean cages, play with handtoys (err, with the bird of course), prepare birdy food, etc, but I don't waste the energy I do have by going out every night. I usualy make one or two outings a week, for NO MORE than 4 hours, and Zeeba goes to bed early (about 9)--thats about the time I go out, so she dosen't even miss me.

Zeeba will be with me for as long as i'm breathing smile

A quick note--I definitely DON'T think you all are rude! You're honest, very knowledgable, intelligent, and truely care about cockatoos. NOTHING wrong with that! smile

#112442 - 03/24/03 02:35 AM Re: Teen Talk  
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Hi Katy! You know it's really the youngsters who are immature in their responsibilities that misunderstand or take offence on what we are saying.
This site has teenagers known and unknown and we are finding out more and more of their maturity level. I for one am glad to hear from you, Michelle, U2Angel and Ronnie and take pleasure in the fact that we can still scare the immature away. Only when they reach your maturity will they feel comfortable coming back to face us ~old rude adults~ again laugh <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />

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