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#107242 - 09/28/04 05:56 PM Re: Hi  
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I'm with Ron. I don't understand that one.

#107243 - 09/28/04 06:11 PM Re: Hi  
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Ron, I don't think that was a very in-depth discussion about those birds, at least not enough for me to make any assumptions.

#107244 - 09/28/04 06:22 PM Re: Hi  
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Charlie, I thought it was because there was a comment that someone had experience raising ababandoned baby parrots from uninformed people, but then said they weren't aware that you could adopt? If I read that wrong, I apologize.

#107245 - 09/28/04 06:40 PM Re: Hi  
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Ok I will ONCE AGAIN clarify myself. These babies were all lovebirds and parakeets,and the occasional cockateil, I found homes for them myself, when I was a single person, who had a house full of rehabilatating wild birds, from sparrows to owls, and knew I did not have the time to provide an adequate home for them. I went out and did find good homes for them though. I DID NOT KNOW there were organised rescues where one can find a bird that needs a good home, I thought finding my amazon and giving him a good home was a random thing that happened to a few fortunate birds. OK, so tell me now..is their anything else that I might have said that will be picked apart and scrutinized? I would like to bring my introduction to a close now, and this is getting tiresome...so let me know...

#107246 - 09/29/04 12:35 AM Re: Hi  
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Take a deep breathe Kiwi and let it go

welcome to the board but DO NOT expect support for your choice to purchase a bird from many of the members here because, lets be honest, you did make a choice!

cheers

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#107247 - 09/29/04 01:08 AM Re: Hi  
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Hi Brody, I don't expect, nor wan't support for my choice, yes , it was a choice, an uninformed one I admit, as was many other folks here, before they found this site. I have made a commitment to a bird now (note I say BIRD not breeder)and won't let her down. I am thinking about going back to lurking though, as I seem to be too controversial for many people here. frown

#107248 - 09/29/04 01:37 AM Re: Hi  
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hello kiwi

actually everyone has been rather gentle with ya... LOL

you are not so controversal.. as you stay and if you do ..

you will start to see a trend ..

expecially on other sites..

oh the love of my life ,my baby, NEEDS A NEW HOME , i am pregnant, new job, new husband etc etc tec

so please keep in mind why the passion and it is not a personal attack on you .. and we wish your bird the best.

may i ask what information you have on raising a cockatoo ?

and /or what research you did to decide on a cockatoo?

thanks

jewel

#107249 - 09/29/04 04:59 AM Re: Hi  
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Hi Jewel, if this is gentle...I'd hate to see rough ! LOL Actually, I have experience only with amazons, an I'm pretty new at that! But work-wise, I have worked with Macaws, U2's, and Amazons, when clients would bring them to the vet hospital I worked at, (and no, to those of you who will inevitably ask, I did not ever learn of parrot rescuers in this time.) I really decided on a cockatoo, after growing up around waterfowl, and poultry, and watching their antics, and believe it of not, even your average chicken is very smart, and has a complicated social life, ect... I enjoy the birds here at my home so much, and though I protect them from predators, I give them the free range of the acre I live on in the day time, and am able to observe their natural happy behaviors, and find it fascinating. I became interested in too's because of their extreme inteligence, and wanted to have one in the family simply because we enjoy our feathered friends and always have everything from orphan swans to baby peacocks sharing our home, but they always end up going back out to the farm to live as they get older, we wanted a bird that can be more of a family member, and stay with us at all times. I also learned from the various too owners I met at my past workplaces, and am still of course learning...here in particular.

#107250 - 09/29/04 01:26 PM Re: Hi  
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goodmorning

i do hope you read this board throughly. For something that may not apply or make sense to you at this time will in the future.

may i suggest sally's companion parrot handbook.. and her publications CPQ

we can not possibly teach you everything on a chat board.

i will always strongly advise against purchasing a large TOO .... and you might be rather surprised if you knew me..

to bad you do not live near me for there are numerous Toos looking to be rehomed.

how is weaning the baby for you ?

jewel

#107251 - 09/29/04 05:02 PM Re: Hi  
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Hi Jewell, I'm not weaning her, She'll be coming home once she is fully weaned. And, I would be very interested in the book, could you point me in the right direction as to finding it ? Thanks.

#107252 - 09/29/04 06:20 PM Re: Hi  
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i sent you a pm

#107253 - 09/29/04 07:29 PM Re: Hi  
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Anyone who buys a Cockatoo and announces it on this board is controversial. It says right up front when you register something like don't come here telling us you bought a new Cockatoo and expect us to welcome you for it. I wish there were laws allowing people to have there money returned to them if they decide against buying a bird at any time before the bird is taken home. I wonder current laws provide for this and if Pet Store policy may be in violation of these laws.

Even though I love my M2 I would not have bought this breed if I had found this site 12 years ago (when I did the same thing and bought a TOO from a breeder). I am working very hard to get past the mutilation and incessant screaming with my M2 (btw, for those interested the screaming has been greatly reduced but the collar is still not off) and my 4 other birds just seem more suited to my lifestyle and environment, they are all extremely well behaved, problem free and healthy.

I don't want to drive you off now, bittersweet was a good word. What's done is done. You will have your bird home soon and I wish you all the luck in the world. I do believe that on this site you will get the best help in being able to avoid some of the problems that these birds seem to fall into so easily. Most other bird sites do not even identify these problems. It sounds like you can give this bird a good home, but please don't ever give up on this bird if problems occur dispite your good home.

#107254 - 09/29/04 08:42 PM Re: Hi  
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Thank you RB I know I am not nessecarily what this board would like to see, and I understand that, I'm not here to try to get acceptance for what I did. I AM here to give my new TOO, (and amazon) the best care possible.
Now that I have become aware of the plight of these birds in captivity, I am increasingly concerned for a M2 that I see in a cage in the back of the feed store I go to. I asked the owner about him and she told me she acquired him as a second hand bird from a friend who's son had gotted "bored" with the bird. Well at first I saw the bird out of his cage most of the time, enjoying the frequent visitors, and getting attention from his new owner. Now for the past few months I see him in his cage continually, behind the store, looking sad, and kind-of forgotten. Is there any advice anyone here can give me as to what I should say to the feedstore owner about this. I dont want to come off as rude, as that probably wont get me anywhere, but I'd like to make her aware of this site at the very least. Any advice on this situation would be most welcome.

#107255 - 09/30/04 12:48 AM Re: Hi  
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Maybe gently point out these birds are v intelligent and sociable animals and having it stuck alone in back of the store may not be the greatest environment or way to care for the bird. And take it from there....db

#107256 - 09/30/04 01:04 AM Re: Hi  
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What DB said is right but anyone who can take a Too (or any bird) and stick it in isolation, will probably NEVER have a clue. I feel bad that my dog has to be "caged" in a 1/2 acre back yard unless we're out with him.

Too bad you hadn't seen that bird first. I just know he would love a good home with proper care and lots of attention from "his" flock. You still need to do as DB said and talk to them. That story has been heard so many times on this board and it's always just as sad.

#107257 - 09/30/04 01:39 AM Re: Hi  
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Actually Charlie, I did see that bird first, but she did not welcome the idea of giving him up, even if it was to a better home, but that was months ago, maybe I'll bring it up now that the "newness" has worn off or at least direct her to this board. smile

#107258 - 10/05/04 12:41 PM Re: Hi  
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It's YOU and PEOPLE LIKE YOU that has caused us to lose one of our most beloved members because no one will "tell it like it is" to new members who are wanting to buy a bird....here it goes then Karen....

If you don't agree with the MYTOOS views on buying a bird, then GET THE HELL OUT. Harsh? I resent the fact that Karen left because of the likes of you! Angry? You bet! Now it's been said, not as tactfully as Karen did, but now maybe you'll get the point!

If my post has reflected badly on MYTOOS, then I have no problem with the Moderators taking it off, but I stand by my words.

#107259 - 10/05/04 05:00 PM Re: Hi  
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Welcome to My Toos, where duck and cover is sometimes the only answer <img border="0" alt="[laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh[1].gif" />

I've sent you a PM.

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#107260 - 10/05/04 06:52 PM Re: Hi  
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I'm sorry that I couldn't resist responding to you Cynthia, I really should just ignore, butttt...It's YOU and people like YOU that are so rude and nasty in your posts that you will end up driving away people interested in adopting these wonderfull birds and providing them with good lifelong homes. You are so quick to be nasty to any new member, without regard to their past knowledge of bird adoption or that such a thing even existed, that in your infinite ignorance, you seem to be out to chase people away from this site and the good advice they could get to possibly help their birds. The bottom line, Cynthia, is that the birds are the only ones who will really suffer, when you try to chase new people away. I'm sorry someone you really liked quit this forum, that was THEIR choice tho...I, personaly, plan to stick around, so my birds can benifit from the knowledge I can gain from this site. smile

#107261 - 10/05/04 07:18 PM Re: Hi  
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I have no intention of getting in a pissing contest. Before you call me infititely ignorant, you had better read what MYTOOS says about name calling and trouble making.

JERRY- if you see fit, please take this in consideration and not give this one the chance to stick around! You can read any and ALL of my posts and know that I have NEVER been one to be rude or out of line. I say what I mean and I really mean it with this one Jerry! Please, consider unregistering Kiwi, she has no business here causing trouble.

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