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#62259 - 04/04/02 09:21 AM HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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I have always loved cockatoos,but I have stumbled upon something else,..a blue 7 gold macaw,at a dirty old pet shop,in a puny little cage,with nothing to do all day but sit on a perch,and say hello for food,this bird has been in the pet store for 15 YEARS!!! 15 years!! aparently...this bird doesn't get much attention..except for the customers peering in at him,and giving him some seeds...yeah seeds to eat. he doesn't seem aggressive,but I wonder how this poor bird must feel... He lives in a pet shop!!! andcomes out maby once a week or maby alittle more from the icky old cage...it makes me want to cry!! What should I do? the petstore owner won't sell him! I know I can provide a MUCH better home for it then it has in th pet store! what should I do everyone?

#62260 - 04/04/02 09:45 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  

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Where is this pet store, amanda? What city in bc? Why don't you ask the owner of the pet store you work for, doesn't he own a blue and gold macaw as well?

#62261 - 04/05/02 10:09 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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I know of a woman in BC that just rescued a blue and gold from a pet store. The bird has tumors on it and she paid $2000 for the poor guy. All he ate was crap the the McDonald's next door. I just purchased a cage from a 17 year old young man that just rescued a blue and gold three months ago. If you want a macaw, prepare to get bitten very hard to the point of stitches over and over again. This young fellow knew what he was getting into and did his homework. He just spent all his money for a $1500 cage instead of buying a car for himself. He had brand new toys for Maggie and then he showed me the ones that were only a month old. They were totally trashed beyond recognition. These toys cost a minimum of a $100 each. He also worked in a petstore, and even with his discount, the bird is drowning him in bills. He got the macaw for free, but had her at the avian vet daily for the first month.

This young fellow was great, and when I saw what he did, I paid exactly what his asking price was for Tasha's new cage. He did not need to lose anymore money. PLease think long and hard before getting a bird of any kind. They are much more expensive then you think. My Ekkie is not destructive but I have spent a small fortune on giving her the life she deserves. I am not even close to being finished yet.

#62262 - 04/06/02 03:42 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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With a macaw, you don't have to get bitten over and over again. They are not unpredictable and they are easy to win over with some kindness and FOOD. They are not nearly as complicated and sensitive as cockatoos. Back during the early import days, they would train wild caught macaws by opening up all their cages and allowing the birds to approach the trainer. The trainer would be sitting at a table eating. It was far too tempting for a macaw to resist for long.

Larger cockatoos were far more difficult to train and most often were sold as "aviary" birds. Give me a macaw anyday over a cockatoo.

Donna

#62263 - 04/08/02 02:12 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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In dealing with any bird, with any background, there's absolutely no reason to have to be bitten over and over. The #1 Rule about bites is - avoid them! Set your bird up to win and you'll win too.

About the bird in the petstore, I wouldn't automatically assume that means the bird is unhappy. He probably gets lots of attention and interesting things to see compared to the average pet. I hope he gets a lot of time out of his cage. However, if he's kept in disgusting, filthy circumstances, call your local humane/animal control authorities and report the owner.

#62264 - 04/23/02 03:36 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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bonehead goes to the store everyday with me mind you he's only in the cage when i got customers but i think the attention he gets while he does tricks and hops about is good for him and his plucking....i was kinda iffy bout bring him home and to the store daily but truthfully i think its better for him this way he gets my attention there and here also heh its pretty bad that the people in the gas stations know him by name lol

#62265 - 04/23/02 05:25 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  

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That's the funny thing about animal control or the spca-as long as they have acsess to food and water there is nothing they will do-which is why it's harder to get anyting done about birds. Only recently are the humane orginizations beginning to take emotional suffering seriously, and acting on it. There are SO many things one has to do to keep a bird happy, and there is not much action one can take to help if it's basic needs for SURVIVAL are being met, which we all know is far from adequate care for a parrot, actually for all animals.

#62266 - 04/23/02 07:59 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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That's the funny thing about animal control or the spca-as long as they have acsess to food and water there is nothing they will do-which is why it's harder to get anyting done about birds.

Also, most officers don't understand that dishes filled with seed HULLS are not full of seeds. I was a bit of a crusader about 10-15 years ago, and closed down 9 pet stores in my area. I was escorted out of 3 by the police, AAMOF. (Once because there was a sink in the corner and the parrot water dishes had algae growing in them and I started taking them out of cages, washing and refilling them. The owners were a bit put out.)
Also had to have almost 30 birds euthanized from one store, as they had both a psitt and a PBFD epidemic in the store.

I worked closely with animal control then, and to a lesser extent now, since we have a thriving bird club that can act as liason and I don't have to do it personally. BTW, we have no bird-only stores anymore, though there are a couple stores who sell birds and other animals.

Only recently are the humane orginizations beginning to take emotional suffering seriously, and acting on it. There are SO many things one has to do to keep a bird happy, and there is not much action one can take to help if it's basic needs for SURVIVAL are being met, which we all know is far from adequate care for a parrot, actually for all animals.

I try hard to remember that it's ignorance, not malice. It's extremely difficult to do. I have passed out flyers with proper bird care info on them and information on our club, and the couple stores which do indeed sell birds in our area are willing and eager to take 'em. Of course, those same stores are still selling grit and "mite protectors", and say they have to put them on the shelves because Corporate Office requires it. But every little bit helps, I hope.

Jeanne

#62267 - 04/23/02 11:01 AM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  

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I agree, every letter and petition you sign helps. Recently, the shelters run by the spca in BC have gone "no kill"-of course that depends on what your definition of a no kill shelter is. Groups that have been lobbying for change in the animal control area have affected change for the positive, before if you reported a dog chained up 24-7 in squalid conditions, the spca would do NOTHING about it...now, they are taking in the emotional suffering into account with these animals. This can only mean good things for parrots, because now it's not just a matter of life and death, but comfort and sanity. It gives me hope, anyways. smile

#62268 - 05/17/03 07:05 PM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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Hi -- In Jacksonville, FL, the Humane Society does take in birds. They allow prospective families to get on a special list so they get called when one gives in. Luckily, the program is not well publicized, so those who have birds are the ones on the list. I can see some potential problems if word gets out that you can get the bird for the adoption fee of $35. I will talk to the shelter director, and see if they will set up a screening process. I'll let you know what happens. Diane

#62269 - 07/25/03 04:48 PM Re: HELP! this bird needs to be rescued!  
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its important to remember that it is not the spcas that write the laws! Most cuirrent laws are fine as long animals have food, water and shelter and are not in desperate need of medical care. The inspectors and agents are as frustrated as we are- perhaps even more so as they deal with it daily- it is the LAW that must change....and most spcas push hard for law change....

animal control enforces the people aspect of animal laws- they might call in public health in a crisis or enforce numbers of animals in a house but they are not designed to enforce animal welfare...

Conrad's hell is a frighteningly good example of wishing the law had some teeth in my province : (

cheers

brody


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