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#46357 - 11/06/04 09:18 PM PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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I just received a phone call from my avian vet, with the results of the biopsies on my recently deceased 6 yr old Goffins, Pirate. He said it was PDD. How it came into my home, I have no clue. My question is: since he was chummy with my U2 and they actually spent their days in a small flight cage together, will my U2 fall victim as well? Has anyone had any experince along these lines? My vet did say that there is a new treatment using Celebrex that may be used if caught early enough. I am just afraid of what may happen. I feel devastated. I have a M2,a grey,a cockatiel,a ringneck,a green cheek and a senegal as well. Any input will be appreciated.

#46358 - 11/06/04 11:51 PM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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I cannot offer you anything but internet hugs and sincere well wishes. I would be a basket case. Please keep us updated.

#46359 - 11/06/04 11:57 PM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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Jan, I am just a Too companion but I am so sorry to hear about the presence of this disease in your flock. I would think your vet would have given you more help and understanding by now. Please talk to him and get references to more qualified people if he is not providing answers to your questions.

Please go to the search feature at the top right hand of the page and type in PDD and search all forums. I got 35 hits. Begin by reading all this and I'm sure there are members who will be reading your post and offer more help. Hang in there!

#46360 - 11/07/04 12:38 AM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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From what I have read PDD is not highly contagious. In fact (to my knowledge) no one is certain how it is transmitted. One of the M2's at Foster Parrots died and was diagnosed with PDD.

His buddy is doing just fine. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

It is news to me that there is a treatment. I would like to know more about this.

#46361 - 11/07/04 12:50 AM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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ditto to michaels comments and celebrex is NOT a cure just a way to maintain comfort .. dang what is the wording i am looking for

jewel

#46362 - 11/07/04 12:56 AM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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Jan, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. We had
suspected PDD in a U2 we'd rescued some years
ago, so I know just enough to know how serious it
is, and how devastating this is for you.
By God's grace, it was not PDD that took Rose,
but the loss of a precious companion is so
painful whatever the cause. (((HUG)))

Charlie's suggestions are the best. I found a
LOT of info starting right here at mytoos in the
search function, also try to google Proventricular
Dilation Disease.

What I understood from our vet is that PDD
is contageous, but not all exposed birds will
contract it. Symptoms can arise months or
even years after initial exposure. A Celebrex-
like medication is being used as a treatment to
help relieve internal inflamation and pain, but
it is not a cure. It alleviates the symptoms that
prevent the bird from digesting/passing food, but
the disease is still progressing. Also, PDD can
affect the nervous system along with or even
instead of the digestive system; again, the
Celebrex still provides relief from the symptoms.
Definitely talk more with your vet; ask for
referals if necessary. You need to know all you
can about this. Not knowing Pirate's history,
and not having any medical qualifications, I can
only tell you what we went through.

There was only one test available to check PDD:
several barium xrays taken in succession to
track the passage of the barium through Rose's
system. Expensive, miserable for her to endure,
and in retrospect, not accurate. I refused to
put the rest of my birds through the testing,
and that turned out to be ok for us, but your vet
may suggest it. It would ONLY show if there were
an enlarged ventriculum (?), but would NOT
confirm or refute the presence of PDD. I don't
know if better testing is available these days.
And if there's anything I can do......

Jules

#46363 - 11/07/04 06:26 AM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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Here's an article that might help you understand more. It's a few years old, but....??
Be sure to read....* dealing with PDD in an indoor aviary. Hope this helps.
http://www.silvio-co.com/cps/articles/1998/1998tayl-hunt1.htm

#46364 - 11/08/04 09:03 PM Re: PDD? IS MY FLOCK DOOMED?  
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You have all my sympathy and understanding.

My Moluccan hen died years ago from PBFD. There was no test for the disease at that time, and it was dormant for well over a year. I took care of her for about 4 months, until her quality of life was such that I had her put down. My male Moluccan was, of course, exposed. I lived in fear for years, panicking at the sight of anything slightly off.

His age was unknown at the time... I thought he might be about 5 years old (birds over 5 years tend to be more resistant to the disease). I found out years later, his age was actually closer to about 10-12 years. A good thing in this case.

The good news is that he is alive and well, more than 10 years later.

Focus on the positive. Take reasonable precautions (don't share food dishes between birds, keep cages clean), and take it a day at a time. Some days are better than others, but you'll get through it.

Best wishes, Karen


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