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#164986 - 05/19/08 06:32 AM Please help...  
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Hi,my names Angela and Im new to the website. I found it last night when we brought home a cockatoo who deffinatly has problems. This is his story and I would appreciate any information/help that any can give.

I decided 5 years ago that I was ready for a bird (umbrealla cockatoo or african grey), due to the fact that i had just met my husband and was a student i decided that it wasnt the right time in my life, when i was ready i would know. Last August my husband and myself decided that it was time and we sat down and i told him the pros and con of both of these birds, we decided on an african grey (he thought cockatoos would be to noisy). We attended the bird fair that was in town, met some breeders and purchased a large cage and toys...no bird. In the last 8 mths we have kept in contact with the breeder of our choice and have been waiting for the perfect baby, or so we thought. Yesterday(saturday) we went to the bird fair that was in town to look around, pick up some more toys, and possibly get a second cage for the bedroom. We approached this breeder who had macaws, cockattos, and greys. There sat a adolesent cockatoo not fully featherd on his cage, he was scared, shaking and just looked generally unhappy. I asked the woman about him:

Hes 4-5 years old, she hand raised him. she had him paired with his female and she died. Due to the fact that she had 300pairs of birds and 2 full time employees she didnt have the time to give him and he started plucking. She Brought him as an example of what could happen if you dont spend time with your bird (your kidding me right!) when she gets home shes going to pair him up with another feamle and continue to use him as a breeder. I pulled my husband to the side and we talked about offering her money to get him away. We made her an offer and she told us she would think about it, so we walked around for a bit before returning to her "booth" she countered and i told my husband to go to the atm machine. When we paid her she told me she would get him a box and put some bedding down...that hed be fine. we went and bought him a travel cage, a perch, toys, food and water bowl, avivita plus,feather in, featheriffic, 2 different zupreem pellets, dried fruit, calcium perch, cuddle bone...the works. She looked at us when we brought it all to her booth and asked why we spent that much money on him!!! We made it out of there with the bird and supples for a little under $700. thank god we had the other stuff at home already.

So here we are, the vet isnt open untill tomorrow, i cant get him to eat his pellets, fruit or veggies (absoulutly no vitamins) all he wants is sunflower seeds and corn. he has so many feathers gone i thought he was a baby hes all pinfeathers except for his head. he only bites if hes in his cage and u go sticking your fingers threw the bars, open the door and go in and hes fine. he like to be loved on but hes very apprehensive, he wont step up but once you get him hes all loving, he preens my hair for hours at a time. hes a darling, and i just want to make sure he gets better.

So thast the story of Oscar (thats what we named him, he had no name) and how we came to bringing him home into our family. any information would be appreciated on how to deal with this whole situation. I also would like to know if there was any way i could track where he came from with his leg band. I can email pics to anyone who wants to see his condition. when were up hes out of his cage, either on his stand or on me (im a stay at home mom so im with him all day) or my husband, thank you in advance for your help.

#164993 - 05/19/08 07:24 AM Re: Please help... [Re: OscarsMom]  
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Get him to a vet as soon as you can make an appointment! The vet will be able to answer most of your questions. There is absolutely no way to tell how old that bird is. The band usually has the hatch date but breeders can put whatever they want on a band. The bastards have probably not told you one kernel of truth about the bird.

Keep him quiet and don't "force" him to do anything he does not want to do. Quiet talking and ambient attention will be most appealing and safe to him right now. He has obviously had a traumatic life until now. You will need a large cage soon. Do not try to force a diet change. Do it very gradually and always have the Zupreem pellets and some fresh vegetables available unless they are scary to him. He will let you know when he is ready for more interaction with you, if he is healthy! Bird Fairs and scummy breeders are notorious sources of disease.

In the meantime, other members will chime in with useful information. Make sure he gets a dark, quiet room to sleep in and that he gets a good 10-12 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Start reading; you are in for a ride! Get right on that vet appointment!

You enabled this flesh trader by buying from him. He will be laughing all the way to the bank but that happened yesterday. The bird is yours today so do your best! Welcome to Mytoos.

#164995 - 05/19/08 07:46 AM Re: Please help... [Re: Charlie]  
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I agree with Charlie, get this poor bird to a vet as soon as possible.

Diffently get a diet change started. You will have to go slow though. I know when I got Java he was on an all seed diet and to this date a little over a year later he still has to have his seeds. However, I have gotten him to eat pine nuts and almonds instead of sunflower seeds. I have finally gotten him to try to fruity pellet food, still will not touch harrison's, but have not given up hope.

As Charlie said the best thing to do is take everything but the vet check slow. Make sure you ask for a blood workup. As the first time I took Java to the vet they did not ask me and I did not know to ask.

Good luck with oscar, keep up posted on his health and progress. Thankfully he now has a loving home.

#164998 - 05/19/08 07:55 AM Re: Please help... [Re: Michelle8822]  
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thank you. i will be calling the vet first thing in the morning to make him an appt. the cage i bought last august when i was preparing for a bird is 3X3X5. his travel cage is smaller but i do ahve a bigger cage for him with a playtop. we cover him for 12 hrs, and he sits ontop or with us the other 12hrs. he will take food from your hands and welcomes loving, just not picking him up or "steping up". Hopefully dr. remington can work us in tomorrow, once i tell her the situation im sure she can do it. i know i enabled by paying for him, me and my husband debated on walking out with him (she left us alone many times), but we are firm belivers in karma. so we did all we thought we could do to save him, offer the one thing we knew she would take...money. i know hes safe now and will get the care he needs and treatment if hes sick.

#165018 - 05/19/08 04:31 PM Re: Please help... [Re: OscarsMom]  
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Yes, he's safe but his replacement is probably already there. mad

Please let us know how he does at the vet's. If he is healthy, in time you will need more advice, I guarantee! smile

Best of luck to you and Oscar!

#165020 - 05/19/08 04:36 PM Re: Please help... [Re: Charlie]  
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welcome to the site. this is the best cockatoo site that I 've been to.
I hope all goes well with you and Oscar. He sounds like a lovely bird.


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#165046 - 05/19/08 10:52 PM Re: Please help... [Re: Chewy]  
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Please don't buy birds because one is replaced with two. Go to a rescue to help save birds. Good luck with Oscar! : )


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#165078 - 05/20/08 02:36 AM Re: Please help... [Re: Donnalee]  
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Oscar saw the Bird specialist in town today. She says that hes mite/lice free, and that he hasnt damaged his folicles badly so the chances of his feathers returning are good. we also had a fecal exam-parasites (neg), Feces-direct micro evaluation (neg), a slide stain(?) (neg), cytology evaluation, Full avian exam, Complete Avian Panel (includes CBC) and a feather beak blood test. I will have the results of the bloodwork By friday. She thinks that his feather biting (she says he bites them not plucks) seems to be more emotional/nutritional then a serious disease. her one concern is that his powder production isnt as much as she would like to see and that he needs to take baths more...i cant get him to take a bath, im goin to try again tonight and croos my fingers untill friday and hope for good test results!!

#165099 - 05/20/08 10:01 AM Re: Please help... [Re: OscarsMom]  
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If you search baths, there are many ways to do it. Birt likes being outside with the hose on a fine mist. Aya likes bathing in a bowl.

#165167 - 05/21/08 01:23 AM Re: Please help... [Re: jenscritters]  
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Oscar is blessed to have you! Please read the agenda here (it's a little late frown the deed is done...). Rescues are the way to add a bird to your family if you are able. Many members here have purchased birds. That doesn't make it right. This site helps us not only to learn how to properly care for our birds, but to educate others about the plight of cockatoos. Anyway, use the search bar at the top of the page for topics you need to learn more about or questions you have. Keep us updated! grin


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#165186 - 05/21/08 03:59 AM Re: Please help... [Re: Bird Mom]  
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When everything gets worked out with Oscar and we are on the right track health and feather recovery wise i would love to rescue another bird. If anyone knows of a good rescue group in florida I would appreciate their information. thank you guys so much for the help so far.

#165193 - 05/21/08 05:06 AM Re: Please help... [Re: OscarsMom]  
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Please, work with Oscar for two years and then see if you want another! You ain't seen nothing yet. See my avatar? That is a happy cockatoo. You can hardly get within 10 feet of her when she is screaming like that. That is not a defect, that's what cockatoos do. People try to figure out ways to stop them; that is wrong.

You really don't know Oscar well enough to bring another bird into the mix. What if they hate each other? There is a 50/50 chance! Oscar is not comfortable enough yet for you to have a handle on his personality. I hope you can see what I am trying to say.

#165199 - 05/21/08 06:44 AM Re: Please help... [Re: Charlie]  
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Thats why I said when I get everything worked out with him, i wasnt speakin of next week. I know what he sounds like when he gets loud, hes done it a cpl times, i just let him know that im there and dance with him and he calms down in 5-10minutes. why do you think i dont know that hes not comfortable yet, i work with him every day to get threw his quirks and try to understand him, im not an absolute idiot when it comes to birds, ive wanted one for over 5 years and i understand he needs time with me before i introduce another PERSON let alone another bird. I also know that it took me 5 years to bring him into my life and I did alot of research in order to do that, I will also do alot of research into the adoption process and this may take another 5 years i dont know, but what i would like to know if if there are any rescues that you suggest so that i can start my process into what i need to do.

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#165215 - 05/21/08 01:07 PM Re: Please help... [Re: OscarsMom]  
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I said it because it has only been about a week. You can research all you like, living with one is the real deal! LOL Here is a state by state list; use it as a starting point. smile

http://avianprotectors.homestead.com/Rescue.html

#165241 - 05/21/08 07:41 PM Re: Please help... [Re: Charlie]  
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Oh, that poor bird in the picture when you open the link!

#165249 - 05/21/08 08:40 PM Re: Please help... [Re: Lori Conarro]  
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That "poor bird" is Lola. Lola is living a good and happy life now! smile

http://www.fosterparrots.com/story.html

#165251 - 05/21/08 08:59 PM Re: Please help... [Re: Charlie]  
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Thanks Charlie. What an amazing story about a beautiful bird.

#165261 - 05/22/08 12:09 AM Re: Please help... [Re: Lori Conarro]  
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I have seen that story, not too long ago, but out of the blue like that, it reduced me to tears beyond those I cried when I first read of Lola (VERY recently)
Oscarsmum, stay here, take what is thrown, advised, guided. You, your hubs, and above all OSCAR will benifit. Never feel judged, just feel openly guided towards the facts, and you will go far. Poor Oscar, what the hell has this poor mite lived through frown Be sure to change his life as he knew it. Stick around, I really dont think you will regret it. You have an army of support, and a wealth of information here.
Warmest wishes from Annie


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#165275 - 05/22/08 01:01 AM Re: Please help... [Re: wishfull]  
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Im sorry if i came off as i took it as a shot at me, i didnt . i understand that all of you are here for the birds and i really am i glad i found this site. I really to appreciate al the help and support, Oscars not going anywhere but it does seem as if hes bonding with me and not my husband (but im a stay at home mom) but i told him just to be patient with him. He made great progress today though, when i opened his cage to let him out he didnt dart to the play top, he hung on the door cooing at me and got luv for about 15 minutes before making his way to the top.

#165279 - 05/22/08 01:27 AM Re: Please help... [Re: OscarsMom]  
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Originally Posted By: OscarsMom
Im sorry if i came off as i took it as a shot at me, i didnt .


I dont think you came across that way at all Oscarsmom smile


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