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Who will pray for me?

Posted By: ZazuSally

Who will pray for me? - 04/04/10 03:21 AM



Who Will Pray for Me

I helped you find a brand new life
My devotion plain to see;
And in return you showed your love
Another home you found for me.

And then you wonder why I do
All the things I do
Biting, plucking, screaming
My pain just bursting through.

My soul I gave you gladly
I wear it on my wing
Talk is cheap for humans
And all the pain they bring.

I gave you all, you gave me naught
You should have let me be
And now my heart is empty
Of the love I gave so free.

When your world was upside down
I loved you most of all,
And how did you repay me
You set me up to fall.

My heart does bleed for what I lost
My love I cannot hide
You gave me to another
Yet I will love you til I die.

When I finally reach the Rainbow Bridge
And all the peace it brings
Your memory shall be cradled
Gently neath my wing.

My love for you is evident
In all the things I do;
I am no more, I am no less
Than a cockatoo.

One last thing I ask of you
My pain Iíve let you see
When home number 3 is no more
Who will pray for me?

Bev Penny
Posted By: Bird Mom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/04/10 04:17 AM

nice...
Posted By: wishfull

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/04/10 03:24 PM

Soul touching!
Posted By: Lucy's Mom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/04/10 09:10 PM

I sent it to everyone I know who has birds...hope you don't mind but it really gets the point across (at least to me)...
Posted By: Cleo's Mom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/04/10 11:33 PM

cryA very powerful poem - m y heart aches for all the birds who are continually re-homed and my Cleo has been one of them. Now she has found her forever home and will never be disposable.
Posted By: Rukesmom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/05/10 01:19 PM

I am with you Cleos Mom!!! Same for my 4 Toos :-)
(and my TAG of course)....
Posted By: FeatheredAngels

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/05/10 06:35 PM

That is absolutely so beautiful and touching.
Posted By: GregM

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/05/10 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: ZazuSally
My heart does bleed for what I lost,
My love I cannot hide,
You gave me to another,
Yet I will love you til I die.


I wrote to O's previous owner and told her I did not think it a good idea to visit...there is a special bond between them and it is cruel to leave O over and over again...I cited the poem, and that passage in particular, in support of my reasoning...

It pains me every time I read it and feel so guilty to be lookign to re-home O again, although I do believe it is in his best interests to find him a home in which he can be happy...

If screaming is an indication that his needs are not being met than he is miserable here...we butt heads a lot due to my need to control his environment...
Posted By: ZazuSally

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/05/10 08:33 PM

Greg, he is screaming because you have reinforced it. OK, let me see if I can explain how it happened. Now I need you to bear with me and use your imagination, OK.

We have 2 different scenarios. Water is a primary reinforcer or a need. We need it to live as is food.

Now we all know that you can go much longer without food than you can water.

You've been stuck in the Kalihari for 3 days without water. I happen to find you and guess what, I have water. Now you ask me for some water and I refuse and turn my back on you. What is going to happen next?

Now Greg, we all know that 3 days in the Kalihari without water and you wouldn't be able to speak, you'd be so dried out but if you could.

If I gave you water right away because you nicely asked for it, that would be it. You would continue to ask for water. In order to get the water you must ask nicely.

But if I refused to give you water, what do you think would happen? Just say you started to get violent and curse me out, then I gave you water. What I just did was reinforce your angry response. You learned that yelling got you the water. If I ignored you until you were quiet before I gave you the water, you would have learned that asking nicely got you the water and not yelling. So I make a choice as to whether or not I want to reinforce you asking nicely or reinforce your angry response. And Greg, this happens every day in real life. We all behave to get the things we value.

So somewhere in the beginning O maybe gave a few yells and you were worried about your son and wife, so you went to him. He learned that all he had to do to get your attention was yell. Now one day you decide that you are not going to let him get the better of you, so you let him yell for 15 minutes but then you lose your cool and go and tell him to be quiet. Now you have just reinforced 15 minutes of screaming and then it is shaped into longer and longer sessions until you have reinforced incessant yelling/screaming. So this is not O's fault. It is human error and it happens all the time in parrot homes because people don't understand behaviour.

Have you not heard back from anyone?

Now did this make any sense?

Bev
Posted By: GregM

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/05/10 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: ZazuSally
Now one day you decide that you are not going to let him get the better of you, so you let him yell for 15 minutes but then you lose your cool and go and tell him to be quiet. Now you have just reinforced 15 minutes of screaming and then it is shaped into longer and longer sessions until you have reinforced incessant yelling/screaming. So this is not O's fault. It is human error and it happens all the time in parrot homes because people don't understand behaviour.

Have you not heard back from anyone?

Now did this make any sense?


Of course it makes sense, and that is exactly what happens...but the real problem is that O screams even when out of the cage; even if you are within eye sight; sometimes when he is out and you are standing right there in front of him...

I lost the most useful of tools when he became hormonal...the shoulder...he is most comfortable there and wants it...but I am too uncertain of his behavior, having had 3 displays of aggression so far...I think he is starting to calm down...

I acknowledge that I am probably more to blame than O...

No one has contacted me...I have exchaned information with a few people and sent out follow ups today...
Posted By: Jackielu

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/12/10 07:43 AM

Intermittent reinforcement (variable-interval reinforcement) is far more difficult to extinguish than consistent reinforcement (fixed-interval reinforcement).

This is because the subject never knows when he will be reinforced, so he keeps trying. Sometimes behavior that has had inconsistent reinforcement is never completely extinguished because of spontaneous recovery where the subject tries the behavior after a long absence of undesired behavior.

Therefore, you are better off reinforcing it every time and stopping "cold turkey" than to be spasmodic about it.

The bottom line is; you're better off continuing to reinforce the behavior consistently until you're able to totally commit to extinguishing it. Then NEVER GIVE IN. Good Luck.
Posted By: newcokatomom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 11/22/10 04:31 AM

Beautiful poem, made me cry like a big baby, wish I was able to take in parrots that need good homes and love because they would have it here. But unfortantly I'm unable to. I would never could never give up Tikie, no matter how much we disagree on some things.
Posted By: Sugar Blue Eyes

Re: Who will pray for me? - 03/27/11 12:43 AM

This Poem brought tears to my eyes....such emotion in the words....My Sugar is here to stay....he has found his forever home....thank you for such a beautiful read.
Posted By: Lilbiker

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/14/11 05:36 PM

What a nice poem, it made my heartache for all the birds and other animals that we see in shelters or abandoned, abused and tossed around like they were a just a useless peace of clutter. When people get tired of having to care for any animal or the pet doesn't turn out the way they had hoped,they don't think twice about just placing and ad or leaving it at a shelter.

We just rescued a M2 a few weeks ago, the guy that we got him from had him in a basement and when we went to visit the first time, the guy had to turn on the light, so Zazu was left in the dark with a space heater plugged in next to her cage. But I knew that I was not leaving there with out this baby and the thing that really got me was he said he wanted the "Baretta" bird but it was not hand tame so he took this one instead.

Ignorance is why so many suffer.
Posted By: Crzy4Brdz

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/16/11 03:15 AM

Going to print this poem and add it to my file... Poignant reminder for the "bad" days and aptly said. Thank you for sharing.
Posted By: PJsMom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 02/17/12 03:37 AM

well, that one made me cry! So many birds treated like so much garbage and thrown away. I knew of a macaw kept in a garage by himself for years. finally was sent to a rescue. Poor Babies.
Posted By: sunshyne601

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/14/12 06:54 AM

This really made me cry. this is why I brought Houdini home with me because I was determined that he would know nothing but love as long as I'm alive. And my niece will make a wonderful companion for him when I'm no longer able...if he'll have her lol
Posted By: Feathered Love

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/20/12 08:59 AM

This really hits a soft spot with me. So touching. And true. Can I share this to a few people who have birds?
Posted By: LuLuRoman

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/20/12 09:36 PM

Wow...amazing ...may I also share this?
Posted By: EchosMom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 04/21/12 01:20 AM

Absolutely, Mytoos is a public message board.
Posted By: Elaina

Re: Who will pray for me? - 07/21/12 02:22 AM

I really appreciate your poem. Every word, thank you so so much. I am posting this on the page of our rescue. If everyone just knew better...
Posted By: oliscot

Re: Who will pray for me? - 09/05/12 12:29 PM

Wow moving stuuf, made me wnt to write something myself. Is it ok to share this on facebook if I give credit to the author? Might make some people think....
Posted By: ChickenBaby

Re: Who will pray for me? - 10/02/12 03:41 PM

so sad, so true...
Posted By: Sunflower

Re: Who will pray for me? - 10/02/12 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Sugar Blue Eyes
This Poem brought tears to my eyes....such emotion in the words....My Sugar is here to stay....he has found his forever home....thank you for such a beautiful read.


I just have to quote what this person said, because they said it all.
Posted By: hellococky

Re: Who will pray for me? - 12/30/14 03:42 AM

Beautifully put...this is why I adopted Sam, I wasn't even looking or wanting to get a bird, but when I heard he was to be given away the coming weekend(possibly dumped at the vet or set 'free', the latter being not only illegal, but with his then undiagnosed damaged wing, would have been fatal),i decided I had to step in & offer my home & heart to this poor baby...turns out it was one of the best decisions I ever made, for us both, he has enriched my life so much in such a short time & I only wish I was going to be around for as long as he will be (he is about 5 & I'm 44), I am in fact getting a will organised for his benefit (don't have one as yet, no human kids, so never bothered) & leaving him & my entire estate to a reputable shelter, who I know will care for him & my other 'babies' & ensure they have a good life, just so that his future will never be uncertain again.
Posted By: Lola Mom

Re: Who will pray for me? - 12/30/14 05:33 PM

That is a beautiful poem, owning birds gives me great pleasure and immense sadness. Having recently rescued an umbrella from a simply deplorable home and horrible owners who were abusive I find myself in tears for this wonderful bird, obviously raised at one time by a male who taught her everything and was her everything Now, bare chested, screaming but still singing somewhere over the rainbow and dancing and talking she is possibly facing the end of her torture on this earth as I cannot find a suitable home nor a rescue agency to help me and my daughter is highly allergic to the dust, thus the ER three times now. Who decided way back to put these smart beautiful creatures in a cage. We did. Pray for Lola too.
Posted By: carolpalmer

Re: Who will pray for me? - 06/07/16 07:36 AM

Really touching lines. My prayers assured
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